scooter2525
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I used to hear ATC say “sorry, on the land line. Who was checking in?” A fair amount. I haven’t heard it in a while lately.
What happened to the land line?
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Sculprit
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Allegedly its back on the 737 fleet.
knot4u
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The "land line" was the actual telephone in the tower, in other words they were talking on the phone and not monitoring their frequency. Before you get kerfuffled please understand that ground, tower and center used to do this regularly, it might've been something as benign as a student on their first cross country or something as serious as an in flight emergency. I'm certain they all still have land lines, maybe they just don't talk about it anymore.
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scooter2525
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Have you operated in the NAS in the past 5 years or so?
ahw01
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Rosstafari
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We just called any coordination call the landline. Actual calls involving dialing a telephone number are rare.
Not much advantage to saying “sorry, I was on the intrafacility party line” or “sorry, I was arguing about fantasy football with the guy next to me”.
Not much advantage to saying “sorry, I was on the intrafacility party line” or “sorry, I was arguing about fantasy football with the guy next to me”.
"Landline" was definitely an older generation thing I think. They all retired over the last 10 years. I still use/hear some form of it though. "Offline" or "on the other line."
Automation has lessened the amount of verbal coordinations being made by an individual controller though.
Automation has lessened the amount of verbal coordinations being made by an individual controller though.
NovemberEcho
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I still use that excu….er…I still have that happen all the time.
JordanD
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I wanna use it once when I miss a radio call
nabbyfan
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I normally just say "Who was the last one, I was off the line". 50% of the time im telling the truth, 50% of the time i was talking to a coworker or just missed it and wasnt paying attention lol.
One of the biggest things Ive seen pilots take away from a tour of the ARTCC, is how little they understood the sheer amount of coordination that is going on in the background that you have no idea about while youre flying. Some of our sectors are bordered by 10-15 other positions, half of which can call and immediately be in my ear and route the Frequency to my overhead speaker. Theres also "Shout Lines" where other facilities are calling for you on a speaker over your sector without the ability to be piped into my headset, so youre listening to that on top of the frequency, on top of my Override line from an in house sector calling which can be random. And all of that talking is on top of all of us in the room talking about whatever were BS'ing about all day lol. Its controlled chaos, worth a visit for any pilot for sure just to check it out.
Hopefully they bring back FAM flights for us someday. Its super beneficial both ways for us to see each other's work environment IMO.
One of the biggest things Ive seen pilots take away from a tour of the ARTCC, is how little they understood the sheer amount of coordination that is going on in the background that you have no idea about while youre flying. Some of our sectors are bordered by 10-15 other positions, half of which can call and immediately be in my ear and route the Frequency to my overhead speaker. Theres also "Shout Lines" where other facilities are calling for you on a speaker over your sector without the ability to be piped into my headset, so youre listening to that on top of the frequency, on top of my Override line from an in house sector calling which can be random. And all of that talking is on top of all of us in the room talking about whatever were BS'ing about all day lol. Its controlled chaos, worth a visit for any pilot for sure just to check it out.
Hopefully they bring back FAM flights for us someday. Its super beneficial both ways for us to see each other's work environment IMO.
Skåning
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Props to you guys for what you go through just to get the job done. Hope more folks exercise patience, especially with the shortages.
Seggy
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Yup, it is. Flew with it on this week.
If ARTCC is busy, I won’t do the rat race of everyone constantly stepping all over everyone else and having to repeat it all again, in trying to check in on their new freq. I’ll either wait until there’s actual a quiet moment, or the controller will ask for me when he’s wondering if I’m on freq or not.
Personally, I prefer to talk to no one, which is why helo ops are nice.
Personally, I prefer to talk to no one, which is why helo ops are nice.
ERfly
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You would love CPDLC!If ARTCC is busy, I won’t do the rat race of everyone constantly stepping all over everyone else and having to repeat it all again, in trying to check in on their new freq. I’ll either wait until there’s actual a quiet moment, or the controller will ask for me when he’s wondering if I’m on freq or not.
Personally, I prefer to talk to no one, which is why helo ops are nice.
I still can't get over the raised eyebrows I get when I go into the REQUESTS screen to ask for a new altitude.
If our planes had it, it would be great!
ASpilot2be
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I wish we had domestic CPDLC. The worst feeling is reaching Minneapolis Center coming from Anchorage and seeing ATC COMM TERMINATED.
ERfly
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Something with your FANS system? I remember seeing something a couple of years ago with our 777s and an issue with KUSA. Don't remember if it's resolved or not.