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Flyingclamsforever

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Hey guys what's the field looking like nowadays in regards to airlines requiring covid vaccines for dispatchers?

Do most regionals require them? Majors?

How about exemptions? Is that an option?

Any info is appreciated. Also, if anyone would rather private message me than post it here feel free. Thanks!
 
Your options in this field will be very limited without the vaccine. Being fully vaccinated is required at my major and i am very confident at the other 3. My former regional also requires them (and i know of at least one instance of a person being fired from a different major than the one i work at, and then having a job offer recinded trying to go back to our formal regional when he again refused. ) I would say its probably a better expenditure of energy just to get it done (regardless of view on the vaccines) and have the box checked off rather than miss an opportunity because you dont.
 
autosave36 said:
Your options in this field will be very limited without the vaccine. Being fully vaccinated is required at my major and i am very confident at the other 3. My former regional also requires them (and i know of at least one instance of a person being fired from a different major than the one i work at, and then having a job offer recinded trying to go back to our formal regional when he again refused. ) I would say its probably a better expenditure of energy just to get it done (regardless of view on the vaccines) and have the box checked off rather than miss an opportunity because you dont.
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I know someone just hired at a major and not vaccinated. It depends on the policy of that company but it is possible to get hired now at a major without one. Nobody was fired at my major for not being vaccinated. Vaccines and exemptions for new hires are a way to reduce the pool. As we get further away from the pandemic and as staffing needs require, I imagine these policies will be dropped. If not vaccinated and cant find a major or regional that will hire you, just wait it out. Many that require it are very liberal about approving exemptions.
 
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Flagship_dxer said:
I know someone just hired at a major and not vaccinated. It depends on the policy of that company but it is possible to get hired now at a major without one. Nobody was fired at my major for not being vaccinated. Vaccines and exemptions for new hires are a way to reduce the pool. As we get further away from the pandemic and as staffing needs require, I imagine these policies will be dropped. If not vaccinated and cant find a major or regional that will hire you, just wait it out. Many that require it are very liberal about approving exemptions.
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Thanks for the info. I don't suppose you could shoot me a msg about which major didn't fire people for their medical decisions?
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I know someone just hired at a major and not vaccinated. It depends on the policy of that company but it is possible to get hired now at a major without one. Nobody was fired at my major for not being vaccinated. Vaccines and exemptions for new hires are a way to reduce the pool. As we get further away from the pandemic and as staffing needs require, I imagine these policies will be dropped. If not vaccinated and cant find a major or regional that will hire you, just wait it out. Many that require it are very liberal about approving exemptions.
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Basically any carrier who has a DOD contract or CRAF membership will likely uphold the requirement due to federal order and risk of losing established contracts. I dont know if this can be legally asked during the interview process but offers have been rescinded if noncompliant by date of hire. I believe it is still very much a company decision in regards to exemptions at this point. The requirement will be stated in the job description.
 
OttoPilot13 said:
Basically any carrier who has a DOD contract or CRAF membership will likely uphold the requirement due to federal order and risk of losing established contracts. I dont know if this can be legally asked during the interview process but offers have been rescinded if noncompliant by date of hire. I believe it is still very much a company decision in regards to exemptions at this point. The requirement will be stated in the job description.
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On the Delta application, it asked if you were vaccinated. So I imagine it is legal.
 
Scarebus said:
Now that the CDC and all freely admit the clot shot doesn’t prevent infection or transmission these mandates are going to fade with time. I wouldn’t worry about it as a long term issue.
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See a normal person would expect that… However, you aren’t dealing with sane people currently running the CDC as their advisory panel just voted 15-0 in approval to add it to the childhood immunization schedule.
 
OttoPilot13 said:
Basically any carrier who has a DOD contract or CRAF membership will likely uphold the requirement due to federal order and risk of losing established contracts. I dont know if this can be legally asked during the interview process but offers have been rescinded if noncompliant by date of hire. I believe it is still very much a company decision in regards to exemptions at this point. The requirement will be stated in the job description.
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Religious and medical exemptions are federally protected under Title VII of both the Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act.
 
Flyingclamsforever said:
Hey guys what's the field looking like nowadays in regards to airlines requiring covid vaccines for dispatchers?

Do most regionals require them? Majors?

How about exemptions? Is that an option?

Any info is appreciated. Also, if anyone would rather private message me than post it here feel free. Thanks!
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I know for a fact that they do not require it at Spirit and FedEx. I cannot speak about the other airlines but I would err on the side of "probably". Since the illegality of the mandates has been made clear as well as the overall uselessness of the vaccines in preventing any actual disease (let alone getting into the side effects), I'm sure some airlines are being more lenient on requiring it for new hires. Of the airlines that I am aware of though, for current employees (the keyword being "current"), only Kalitta and United got rid of non-compliant employees. Every other airline did not and allowed for some level of accommodation to my knowledge.

However, airlines might be more willing to accept an accomodation to new hires than they previously would have in light of the aforementioned new information. It certainly can't hurt to apply and ask. Worse they can say is "no". But as others have pointed out, it may limit your options at least in the short term.
 
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PHL_Approach said:
See a normal person would expect that… However, you aren’t dealing with sane people currently running the CDC as their advisory panel just voted 15-0 in approval to add it to the childhood immunization schedule.
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It concerns me how so many people were/are willing to kowtow to pharmaceutical corporations (which don't exactly have a squeaky clean track record of patient care) "recommendations" all out of fear. It sets a dangerous precedent that I'm glad is at least now being pointed out.
 
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lionrock said:
It concerns me that you're still hung up on this after 3 years
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You're implying that it's fine for the government to give legal immunity to megacorporations for unproven and dangerous novel medical therapies for a disease with a 99% survival rate after attempting to mandate such activities? You're saying it's okay that the CDC voted unanimously to recommend the novel shot therapy for children when dozens of studies suggest that the COVID vaccinations are far more harmful to children under 12 than the disease itself?

Yeah, lol, I guess I am "hung up" on it. Case in point, don't let fear help corporations and the government dictate your rights or your life. What a lazy, throwaway asinine response.
 
For the OP...generally it will be very clear on a company's website if there is a vaccine requirement for new hires, they don't try to hide. Any company that does have this requirement is also required by law to provide exemptions for medical or religious reasons. Keep in mind, medical reason is generally not "I saw on Facebook the vaccine does XXX so I can't get it," but more something like you have a documented history of allergy to inoculations (for example). Same with religious exemptions, it can't be "I joined this online church last week that says vaccines are not ok," but some sort of specific doctrine combined with documented history of choosing not to take other vaccines for those reasons. YMMV as to exactly what documentation any particular company may require.
 
BigGuy4U said:
You're implying that it's fine for the government to give legal immunity to megacorporations for unproven and dangerous novel medical therapies for a disease with a 99% survival rate after attempting to mandate such activities? You're saying it's okay that the CDC voted unanimously to recommend the novel shot therapy for children when dozens of studies suggest that the COVID vaccinations are far more harmful to children under 12 than the disease itself?

Yeah, lol, I guess I am "hung up" on it. Case in point, don't let fear help corporations and the government dictate your rights or your life. What a lazy, throwaway asinine response.
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you’re assuming a lot based off of his short reply. not everyone gets vaccinated out of fear. some people do their own research, or defer to those who actually know how to read and understand studies. others listen to joe rogan. you do you.
 
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Keeping going guys
 
BigGuy4U said:
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You're saying it's okay that the CDC voted unanimously to recommend the novel shot therapy for children when dozens of studies suggest that the COVID vaccinations are far more harmful to children under 12 than the disease itself?
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I'm not finding any of those "dozens of studies", can you provide some links please?





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