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I just graduated h.s. and was considering finishing my training right away so that i could build time as a CFI while in school. If i did this i would probably do UVSC but i have no idea about how it works. Would it be hard working as a CFI and doing online classes at night? Is it hard? any, believe me, any information will be a big help. The past month has been stressful on deciding where to go for flight training, any info is good. thanks guys.
 
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I can't tell you about UVSC. I haven't started yet. I can say that I have been able to work a normal job and take 8 hours a semester without many problems.
 
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and what would you do if you do get to a major making 60,000 a year and they suddenly pull a TWA, Pan Am, or a Braniff on you? That aviation degree is not worth a whole lot out in the real world.

Dude you are young you should experience some college first. Plus its a hell of alot of fun.
 
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That aviation degree is not worth a whole lot out in the real world.


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I'm so tired of hearing that crap. To most companies a college degree is a college degree, they could care less what you majored in, they only care that you put the time and effort into getting a degree. ANY degree will open doors for you that would normally be closed without one. Unless your trying to get a job in a highly specialized field the specific degree won't matter.

My Father has a History degree, works in intelligence. My Mother has an Art History degree, she's a Hospital administrator. My sister has a Theatre Arts degree, she works for a Corporate Law Firm. My uncle has a degree in Physics, he works as an Athletic director.......my point is, none of them are actually working in the fields they got a degree in, and they are all doing very well. The degree only got them in the door. Get a degree in somthing you enjoy not somthing that you believe may be marketable.

I remember everyone telling my sister that her Theatre Arts degree would be worthless in the real world, now she makes a six figure salary...so I guess it wasn't worthless after all.
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What do you recommend for a good degree Montanapilot?? Business, Computer Science, Accounting??
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B-O-R-I-N-G!!!!! I have a BA in History, probally won't ever use it for anything related but at least I enjoyed it.
 
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I just graduated h.s. and was considering finishing my training right away so that i could build time as a CFI while in school. If i did this i would probably do UVSC but i have no idea about how it works. Would it be hard working as a CFI and doing online classes at night? Is it hard? any, believe me, any information will be a big help. The past month has been stressful on deciding where to go for flight training, any info is good. thanks guys.

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I did about 1 1/2 years at UVSC, it isn't hard, but it isn't that easy either. It takes a lot of commitment to keep on schedule and keep up with the work, especially when you don't actually have to go to class everyday. At first I would procrastinate and end up doing the entire semester cramming in the last 3-4 weeks. After I finally started to follow the syllabus and work ahead, things went soooo much easier.

Basically at the beginning of the semester you get a syllabus/timeline to follow. It says all of your assignments, tests for the semester with the recommended dates to complete them by. Most courses will give you a lesson to read online, then you will have to read the assigned book chapters, then take an online quiz. Most of the tests are online, some you have to have take with a proctor and be supervised.

Having done both actual classroom and online college, I think the online courses are easier in some ways, because you can take most of the tests/quizzes open book, but if your having trouble understanding somthing, you can't just raise your hand and get help from the instructor or have him explain it to you. You have to learn it on your own, or try and e-mail questions back and forth, which is a pain in the ass and a slow process.

I prefer the online courses, no parking to fight with, no classes to sit through all day, just sit down and work at it whenever you have time, nights/weekends or whenever.
 
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Well he never even said it would be an aviation degree, you can do other degrees online too. But either way, I don't think I could add much, there is another thread in this forum where we have talked about it a little. My husband is currently about a year away from his 4 year degree. You can always take some classes online and some in a college if you want. Some people don't think that there is glory in partying at college, so I am all for getting it done and out of the way! Just my opinion, but our lives would be SOOOO much easier right now had we both gotten schooling done right away and headed into careers. I dare say that Corbin could have been well on his way by now, instead of "still training". And what do we have to show for the wasted years? A few memories, some good, some bad, and a lot of extra stress. If going to college because it's "fun" doesn't appeal to you, then I say get it done and get on your way, you will be settled and in a good place when it's time for marriage and kids if that's what you choose, instead of trying to finish school while supporting a family.
 
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Here is a UVSC aviation degree question:

1. They tell me I can go to any flight school. It doesn't have to be on any special list. I just have to get the ratings required to go along with the course. What involvement do your instructors actually have? How much are they having to do? Are they just signing that you have flown x number of hours or what?

2. What are these Co-op classes about? They said the first one doesn't have to be at an aviation job.
 
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Here is a UVSC aviation degree question:

1. They tell me I can go to any flight school. It doesn't have to be on any special list. I just have to get the ratings required to go along with the course. What involvement do your instructors actually have? How much are they having to do? Are they just signing that you have flown x number of hours or what?

2. What are these Co-op classes about? They said the first one doesn't have to be at an aviation job.

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Question 1 - Basically you just sign up for the ground and flight course at the same time. For the ground courses you will have a few assignments to prepare you for the FAA exam, which is usually your Final Exam for the course and a major portion of your grade. Your UVSC instructor will sign you off to take the FAA exam if you pass all your quizzes.
For the flight course, you pretty much do your own thing with the flight school of your choice, their is no involvement with your UVSC instructor on that portion, except for maybe a couple small easy quizzes. Then for your Final grade for the course just send a copy of the completed Rating. UVSC has NO involvement with your actual flight training, unless you are on campus in Orem.

Or you can just take all the ground courses ahead of the flight courses and get all your FAA written exams out of the way, thats what I did. You don't have to take the flight courses at the same time.


Question 2- don't know for sure because I didn't graduate from UVSC so I skipped that Co-op stuff, worthless at any other university. I know one guy just used his CFI job to fill the credit requirements, but probally just about any job would do.
 
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Thanks for the info RPM. I don't want to do the co-op classes right now as I am starting a new job and I really don't want them to know that I plan to leave in 2-4 years. I may skip them as well.
 
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The co-op classes just have you make some goals for your job, work at the job, and at the end have your supervisor sign off an evaluation. It's a really easy class.
 
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So uh...any of you UVSC students want to sell some of your old textbooks??? I need Air Transport Management. Does anyone know if they care if you go by the Jeppesen 141 kit or 61? My thought was it was whatever your school uses right?
 
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I have Air Transportation Management, brand new still in wrapper, $50. PM if you're interested.
 
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So uh...any of you UVSC students want to sell some of your old textbooks??? I need Air Transport Management. Does anyone know if they care if you go by the Jeppesen 141 kit or 61? My thought was it was whatever your school uses right?

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I'll sell ya my Air Transportation mamagement after aug 13 when my class is over... local delivery!
 
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Sounds good Eric.

Hey man, I leave Friday. Early Friday (I've got some drinking to do) be sure to come sign my picture. We are going to lunch if you want to go. Let me know.
 
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Does anyone know if they care if you go by the Jeppesen 141 kit or 61? My thought was it was whatever your school uses right?

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No, they don't care - I got all pt. 61 Jeppesen kits on E-bay (used) for dirt cheap, and I used the Gleim books (also off E-bay) for the CFI exams.
 
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Anybody know how they credit you for existing certificates or completed writtens?

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This is from the UVSC website:
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Challenge Credit -

New students may receive challenge credit for pilot certificates, previous training, prior to beginning our degree program, provided it is approved by a senior advisor.

In order to challenge life experience or pilot certificates, a student must make a copy of his or her certificates, ratings, or documents, front and back, and have the copy notarized. Send the notarized copy to the aviation science department along with the appropriate fees. The student must be registered for at least 3 credit hours in the semester that they wish to challenge. If you have permanent copies of your certificates and we can verify them on the FAA's Airmen Registry, notarized certificate copies will not be necessary.

Challenge credit is posted after the semester concludes and grades are given. The student is allowed to challenge a maximum of 30 credit hours at UVSC. 16 of these credits can be lower division courses. The other 14 credits must be upper division courses. Please contact one of our senior advisors for more information.
Challenge Credit Fee

$30 per course + $10 per credit

Examples
AVSC1100 Private Pilot Ground
(3 credit hours) $60.00
AVSC1110 Private Pilot Flight
(3 credit hours) $60.00

Send copies to:

UVSC
Attn: Aviation Science
800 West University Parkway
MS-114
Orem, UT 84058-5999
 
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instead of getting it notarized, I just sent in my tempo. certificate after i got the perminant one.
 
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