UPS Posting - Assistant DX

Things happen that cannot be controlled. Worst case, the employee has died. Accidents do happen. Not making fun of it because it did happen on the UA side recently.
 
F9DXER said:
Things happen that cannot be controlled. Worst case, the employee has died. Accidents do happen. Not making fun of it because it did happen on the UA side recently.
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Got a tour of Aloha Air Cargo today, and the shift supervisor said the same thing about their opening in October...:(
 
I asked in the United thread, so I thought I would ask here as well: Anyone know what sort of schedule UPS works, as far as days on/days off?
 
At my interview for the Asst. Dispatcher at UA, I was told that Assistant DX are NOT put into CASS since they are not fully trained/qualified Dispatchers?
 
Just wanted to pass on some info I've collected on UPS; take it for what it is worth.....

Flight Planning: Lido
Navigation Charts: Jeppsesn
Weather: In-house Meteorologists

Training is like 6 months topped off with an 8-12 hour test in which you actually plot a low pressure system and cold/warm front based on the AWOS/ASOS observations.

They always have a dispatcher desk open for hot spares and usually a manager will dispatch any hot spare as the SOC only has around 5 minutes to generate the paperwork from scratch.

The SOC office looks like mission control too.

I was told the "best" shift is the international desk(s) during the morning/afternoon. Hardly any flights to dispatch/flight follow with great pay. I assume this only applies to an actual dispatcher though.

Like I said, take the above stuff for what it is worth. One of my instructors was a UPS SOC shift manager and told me a lot of this stuff. I personally think working on their Contingency/IROPS team would be neat. He gave me an open invitation to come visit Worldport/SOC but I can't find his number at the moment :rolleyes:

We had a 757/767 maintenance controller on furlough from UPS at my previous airline. Said he really liked it at UPS. Even gave up his supervisor type of position at our airline to accept his first recall notice back to UPS as a hourly maintenance controller only.

Take a look at these videos. UPS really did a nice job in showing the general idea of what life is like at UPS for a dispatcher.




 
EnrouteGuiseppe & PHL_Approach,
Stand down, this was just a drill. HR screwed up by reposting the opening and there is still only one as of now.

F9DXER,
Had two croak this year. One from MRSA, one from his Glock.

Flagship_dxer,
Yes, assistants are in CASS.

LawDXer,
No, the assistant dispatchers don't really make $25.04/hr, they make $25.37/hr. Looks like my calculator shorted them last time.

jet0052,
4-on/3-off fixed shifts bid annually. Relief is is totally different and I don't feeling like typing how it works.

g767,
In regards to your post:



I can't believe you linked those ridiculous videos, and I don't even know where to begin with this misinformation. Our meteorologists are not an FAA approved weather source and don't write our TAFs. They don't even issue FMFs, the dispatchers do. We get our wx from Lido & WSI. Neither the shift manager nor the shift supervisor dispatch ANYTHING, the union shift lead dispatches the hot flights. Which is good since management would be hard pressed to get a flight from SDF-LEX. The best shift is whatever fits your lifestyle. Our international dispatchers have the highest workload of any I've heard, and our domestic try to keep less than 15 in the air at once but this is often exceeded. One of your instructors was the junior assistant dispatcher who was furloughed before he ever got a chance to dispatch, then was lured into taking a supervisor job less than a year later when none of us would. Stockholm syndrome I guess, because he would have been recalled, upgraded, and have people below him in seniority by now. Contingency consists mainly of hub/ramp supervisors who are "promoted" into this position with zero experience or credentials (and very little IQ), and I don't know what an IROP Team is. Those videos showed the back of two dispatchers' heads for less than 3 seconds, and that is as close to what it showed as life here as a UPS dispatcher.


Does anyone else have any reasonable questions about the job?
 
69beers said:
EnrouteGuiseppe & PHL_Approach,
Stand down, this was just a drill. HR screwed up by reposting the opening and there is still only one as of now.

F9DXER,
Had two croak this year. One from MRSA, one from his Glock.

Flagship_dxer,
Yes, assistants are in CASS.

LawDXer,
No, the assistant dispatchers don't really make $25.04/hr, they make $25.37/hr. Looks like my calculator shorted them last time.

jet0052,
4-on/3-off fixed shifts bid annually. Relief is is totally different and I don't feeling like typing how it works.

g767,
In regards to your post:

YouTube Video

I can't believe you linked those ridiculous videos, and I don't even know where to begin with this misinformation. Our meteorologists are not an FAA approved weather source and don't write our TAFs. They don't even issue FMFs, the dispatchers do. We get our wx from Lido & WSI. Neither the shift manager nor the shift supervisor dispatch ANYTHING, the union shift lead dispatches the hot flights. Which is good since management would be hard pressed to get a flight from SDF-LEX. The best shift is whatever fits your lifestyle. Our international dispatchers have the highest workload of any I've heard, and our domestic try to keep less than 15 in the air at once but this is often exceeded. One of your instructors was the junior assistant dispatcher who was furloughed before he ever got a chance to dispatch, then was lured into taking a supervisor job less than a year later when none of us would. Stockholm syndrome I guess, because he would have been recalled, upgraded, and have people below him in seniority by now. Contingency consists mainly of hub/ramp supervisors who are "promoted" into this position with zero experience or credentials (and very little IQ), and I don't know what an IROP Team is. Those videos showed the back of two dispatchers' heads for less than 3 seconds, and that is as close to what it showed as life here as a UPS dispatcher.

Does anyone else have any reasonable questions about the job?
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I'm just bummed it was a drill.... ;-)
 
I'm sorry you think it was idiotic (which I think is a little extreme since I gave some info, to the best of my ability, since NO UPS dispatcher had chimed in when I posted). I can only go off what I've been told. Those videos are obviously a management creation to say "gee look at what we do" but hence why I said "take it for what its worth" too ;)

Also, notice "" around best. It was his opinion when he told me about the place. And sorry about misusing the term on who does what with a hot spare. Symantec's I guess. Shift lead vs. Shift manager (give me break can't ya).

I swore the UPS weather department was FAA approved at one point or was working towards it, no?

IROP=IRregular OPerations
 
69beers said:
Does anyone else have any reasonable questions about the job?
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Will I be able to get the company to fund my course to learn to talk Thai?

g767 said:
I'm sorry you think it was idiotic (which I think is a little extreme since I gave some info, to the best of my ability, since NO UPS dispatcher had chimed in when I posted). I can only go off what I've been told. Those videos are obviously a management creation to say "gee look at what we do" but hence why I said "take it for what its worth" too ;)

Also, notice "" around best. It was his opinion when he told me about the place. And sorry about misusing the term on who does what with a hot spare. Symantec's I guess. Shift lead vs. Shift manager (give me break can't ya).

I swore the UPS weather department was FAA approved at one point or was working towards it, no?

IROP=IRregular OPerations
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Sorry, I've been on a beach for a couple days and couldn't be bothered to put down the beer to read the interwebs. However, I'll back up every 69beers said.

Nope. The weather guys are "reference only".

The ops there are always irregular. Everyday is the first day.
 
69beers said:
EnrouteGuiseppe & PHL_Approach,
Stand down, this was just a drill. HR screwed up by reposting the opening and there is still only one as of now.

F9DXER,
Had two croak this year. One from MRSA, one from his Glock.

Flagship_dxer,
Yes, assistants are in CASS.

LawDXer,
No, the assistant dispatchers don't really make $25.04/hr, they make $25.37/hr. Looks like my calculator shorted them last time.

jet0052,
4-on/3-off fixed shifts bid annually. Relief is is totally different and I don't feeling like typing how it works.

g767,
In regards to your post:

I can't believe you linked those ridiculous videos, and I don't even know where to begin with this misinformation. Our meteorologists are not an FAA approved weather source and don't write our TAFs. They don't even issue FMFs, the dispatchers do. We get our wx from Lido & WSI. Neither the shift manager nor the shift supervisor dispatch ANYTHING, the union shift lead dispatches the hot flights. Which is good since management would be hard pressed to get a flight from SDF-LEX. The best shift is whatever fits your lifestyle. Our international dispatchers have the highest workload of any I've heard, and our domestic try to keep less than 15 in the air at once but this is often exceeded. One of your instructors was the junior assistant dispatcher who was furloughed before he ever got a chance to dispatch, then was lured into taking a supervisor job less than a year later when none of us would. Stockholm syndrome I guess, because he would have been recalled, upgraded, and have people below him in seniority by now. Contingency consists mainly of hub/ramp supervisors who are "promoted" into this position with zero experience or credentials (and very little IQ), and I don't know what an IROP Team is. Those videos showed the back of two dispatchers' heads for less than 3 seconds, and that is as close to what it showed as life here as a UPS dispatcher.


Does anyone else have any reasonable questions about the job?
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Thanks for the update and info 69beers.
 
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