Upcoming Delta retirements?

MikeD

MikeD

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Heard that for the month of June, Delta will have @300 retirements, one of the largest for a single month. Combo of factors including rising interest rates that would affect lump-sum payouts, diminished benefits due to the poor state of the industry, and contract concessions.

ATLs crash crew is getting lots of time giving turret salutes with water to planes arriving on fini-flights!
 
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Heard that for the month of June, Delta will have @300 retirements, one of the largest for a single month. Combo of factors including rising interest rates that would affect lump-sum payouts, diminished benefits due to the poor state of the industry, and contract concessions.

ATLs crash crew is getting lots of time giving turret salutes with water to planes arriving on fini-flights!

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Around 287 or so left, gone as of end of May. This is good news for Doug who has just seen his seniority number shrink by that much. Could have some effect on Delta liquidity.

Dave
 
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Around 287 or so left, gone as of end of May. This is good news for Doug who has just seen his seniority number shrink by that much. Could have some effect on Delta liquidity.

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Hopefully some good news for folks on furlough as well!
 
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Hopefully some good news for folks on furlough as well!

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Maybe the company will quit bitching about having to start bringing back furloughees.

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[quote}Maybe the company will quit bitching about having to start bringing back furloughees.

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I missed that. What did they say about it?

Dave
 
The fire department screwed one up the other day. A 767-400 driver was retiring and was coming through for his water salute and the firetruck was to close in and the wing and the nozzle of the truck hit. What a way to go out. Your last flight and you have to fill out an incident report. It was the fire trucks fault but still that would suck...
 
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The fire department screwed one up the other day. A 767-400 driver was retiring and was coming through for his water salute and the firetruck was to close in and the wing and the nozzle of the truck hit. What a way to go out. Your last flight and you have to fill out an incident report. It was the fire trucks fault but still that would suck...

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Ouch! I'll bet the operator feels like [expletive deleted]. Think of the stuff hel'll have to put up with from his buddies.
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Yeah I am sure he is going to catch it back at the station...Probably a hiney chewing too.

I respect the fact that those guys are fireman but listening to them on the radio during there practice drills is so funny.. Most of them have no idea how to communicate with the tower/ground. They say it so fast like that are nervous to talk. The ground controller once told one to either slow down talking or just stop the truck. He stopped the truck. A few weeks ago a driver trainee pulled out on the active runway unannouced. A 757 was on the roll. Lucky for him the runway was 10000 ft long. Talk about yelling on the radio. The pilot asked for that sob's boss so he could call when he landed....
 
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I missed that. What did they say about it?

Dave

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As a result of the arbitrator's ruling following the grievance of furloughs despite a 'no furlough' clause the company was told that when the RPM (Revuenue Passenger Miles) reached a specified number that Delta must start recalling pilots. Basically "Well, we agree that the company violated the no furlough clause, but we're going to let the furloughs stand, but here's when recalls must start".

Well, the RPM number got hit, so per the ruling, furloughs must begin. The company and the union agreed that the trigger had been met, now the process of how to go about the recalls begins. The company is crying "understaffed" in the training department, because they so shrank the training dept they say they can only process 30 recallees a month. It's just the usual 'delay, delay, delay' thing, so they can keep as many pilots on the street as long as possible. (Thus saving money they can spend on new RJs, bonuses, etc)

They could maybe bring back some of the previously qualified instructors.....but that would be easy! All I know is that just about every category is so short-staffed dropping anything is basically impossible.

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Yeah I am sure he is going to catch it back at the station...Probably a hiney chewing too.

I respect the fact that those guys are fireman but listening to them on the radio during there practice drills is so funny.. Most of them have no idea how to communicate with the tower/ground. They say it so fast like that are nervous to talk. The ground controller once told one to either slow down talking or just stop the truck. He stopped the truck. A few weeks ago a driver trainee pulled out on the active runway unannouced. A 757 was on the roll. Lucky for him the runway was 10000 ft long. Talk about yelling on the radio. The pilot asked for that sob's boss so he could call when he landed....

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I heard of a similar incident at SFO that made a lot of news. This sounds seriously bad.
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I know a friend of mine was a 737-200 ground instructor and as of 2 weeks ago his position was done away with. He is now working midnight at the TOC in the overhaul bays.
 
[quote"Well, we agree that the company violated the no furlough clause, but we're going to let the furloughs stand, but here's when recalls must start".

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Boy I am missing a lot. So the arbitrator let the furlough stand although he found it illegal!? That's amazing.

Also, I was asking about the "company bitching" part. What did the company say exactly?

Dave
 
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Boy I am missing a lot. So the arbitrator let the furlough stand although he found it illegal!? That's amazing.


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Yes it is.


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Also, I was asking about the "company bitching" part. What did the company say exactly?


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They're just dragging their feet, "We don't have the capacity in the training department to bring them back all at once you know, 30 a month is all we can process".
 
Well there is the limitation with the simulators, unless of course you rent simulator time from other companies, which of course adds money. So, in theory, there is a limitation with the amount of training that you can do, even with enough instructors.

To bring back instructors, they would need to be re-trained as well, of course assuming that they are available and if not, new instructors would need to be trained.
 
Delta just sent instructors back to being mechanics so its not that part. Sim time? Delta has every sim they need and multiple of those. Its called feet dragging and they are good at that.
 
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Delta just sent instructors back to being mechanics so its not that part. Sim time? Delta has every sim they need and multiple of those. Its called feet dragging and they are good at that.

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You took the words right out of my mouth (or off my keyboard...).
 
Retirements are good and if Delta keeps there trend up I am going to retire very early and find something else to do with aviation. I will make sure to retire instead of quit so that in about 19 yrs they will still have to pay me something.
 
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Retirements are good and if Delta keeps there trend up I am going to retire very early and find something else to do with aviation. I will make sure to retire instead of quit so that in about 19 yrs they will still have to pay me something.

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That is a long bet, that they'll be paying anybody anything in 19 years. Good luck!
 
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