jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
United has proposed to the pilot groups a new scope section that takes regional flying down to 250 RJ's with up to 94 seats, thus reducing the number of RJ's in the United Express system by 50%.
http://www.unitednegotiations.com/e...hensive_Company_Proposal_Summary_10-27-10.pdf
At first I thought this was a joke of an offer from United management, but after taking some time to look at the numbers (if I've got the right numbers), this would actually be a huge gain in RJ scope.
Currently, between United Express and Continental Express, there are 541 aircraft outsourced (if the numbers on Wikipedia are correct). That's 249 aircraft flying as Continental Express, and 292 operating as United Express. Since there are currently no limits on turboprops, I won't discuss those numbers.
If this is an initial proposal from management, then it's a 50% reduction in the number of RJ's that are allowed to operate as United Express. Let's assume that it is an initial proposal, and that the numbers will eventually come down to 200 aircraft being outsourced. That's nearly a 66% reduction in regional jets in the United Express system, meaning more mainline jobs in the end.
This will allow United to refleet their regional operations with EMB-170's/EMB-190's, ditch all the CRJ's and ERJ's that are falling apart, and also allow them to put Q's on shorter routes. Maybe a few XR's stick around for long, thin routes, though who knows for how long, as we all know that these aircraft are falling apart.
I have a sneaking suspicion that with this reduced to 200 aircraft, combined with Delta's pay rates, that this would pass the pilot group. It creates more mainline jobs, creates a major reduction in the number of RJ's, and gives mainline management the ability to refleet an aging regional fleet.
That's the long story, the short story is that at my company we'll all lose our jobs, and I guess hope that we can gain employment at mainline.
http://www.unitednegotiations.com/e...hensive_Company_Proposal_Summary_10-27-10.pdf
Industry Competitive Regional Flying restrictions:
o 250 maximum large (less than 95 seats) regional jets (no restriction on props)
o Maximum 6% regional jet flying between hubs
o Minimum 90% into/out of Key/Hub Cities
o Add large regional jets for increases in active mainline fleet (consistent with Delta)
At first I thought this was a joke of an offer from United management, but after taking some time to look at the numbers (if I've got the right numbers), this would actually be a huge gain in RJ scope.
Currently, between United Express and Continental Express, there are 541 aircraft outsourced (if the numbers on Wikipedia are correct). That's 249 aircraft flying as Continental Express, and 292 operating as United Express. Since there are currently no limits on turboprops, I won't discuss those numbers.
If this is an initial proposal from management, then it's a 50% reduction in the number of RJ's that are allowed to operate as United Express. Let's assume that it is an initial proposal, and that the numbers will eventually come down to 200 aircraft being outsourced. That's nearly a 66% reduction in regional jets in the United Express system, meaning more mainline jobs in the end.
This will allow United to refleet their regional operations with EMB-170's/EMB-190's, ditch all the CRJ's and ERJ's that are falling apart, and also allow them to put Q's on shorter routes. Maybe a few XR's stick around for long, thin routes, though who knows for how long, as we all know that these aircraft are falling apart.
I have a sneaking suspicion that with this reduced to 200 aircraft, combined with Delta's pay rates, that this would pass the pilot group. It creates more mainline jobs, creates a major reduction in the number of RJ's, and gives mainline management the ability to refleet an aging regional fleet.
That's the long story, the short story is that at my company we'll all lose our jobs, and I guess hope that we can gain employment at mainline.