under water egress training.

cmill

cmill

Cold Ass Honky
After two months of not touching a float plane my boss is sending me to get dunked wednesday. I'm super excited. Hopefully the ball starts rolling again and i actually get to take some float trips.

I'm not sure how i feel being strapped in upside down under water, but ill be sure to post plenty of pics. :)
 
You doing it at a Navy facility? It's pretty good training, just don't let the prospect freak you out......it's straightforward if you don't panic (obviously the point of the experience).
 
Where do you go for this? I've wanted to do a water egress course but all the indications I've gotten is that the military courses aren't available to civilians.
 
///AMG said:
You doing it at a Navy facility? It's pretty good training, just don't let the prospect freak you out......it's straightforward if you don't panic (obviously the point of the experience).
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Its not at a Navy facility, but im actually looking forward to it. Would much rather my first experience be under controlled conditions than flipping a plane and figuring it out then.
 
sharkey said:
Where do you go for this? I've wanted to do a water egress course but all the indications I've gotten is that the military courses aren't available to civilians.
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The company I work for runs a seaplane safety course, and the training is part of the course. I dont know the namer of the facility we go to, but once i go ill post the info.
 
If there are any enterprising people around, I've always thought there was a good business opportunity running a water egress and survival course for GA out here. There's a lot of water, a bunch of flying and no formal training.
 
sharkey said:
If there are any enterprising people around, I've always thought there was a good business opportunity running a water egress and survival course for GA out here. There's a lot of water, a bunch of flying and no formal training.
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And depending on how far you get into it, alot of liability too.
 
Big take aways for me were:

1) Wait until after impact and until the movement of the aircraft stops before doing anything like unstrapping

2) Always anchor yourself somehow with a hand so that you have a point of reference to move around. When you do it blind folded or in the dark, this will help a lot, and prevent you from getting lost and freaking out.
 
///AMG said:
Big take aways for me were:

1) Wait until after impact and until the movement of the aircraft stops before doing anything like unstrapping

2) Always anchor yourself somehow with a hand so that you have a point of reference to move around. When you do it blind folded or in the dark, this will help a lot, and prevent you from getting lost and freaking out.
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3) calm thoughts create calm movements
4) slow is smooth and smooth is fast....
 
sharkey said:
Where do you go for this? I've wanted to do a water egress course but all the indications I've gotten is that the military courses aren't available to civilians.
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Every couple of year the Coast Guard will travel around South East Alaska with their portable egress trainer and have open classes for all Part 135 and 91 pilots.
 
You have to do it blindfolded sometimes? Is the only way to know which way is up is by feeling the direction of the bubbles?
 
CameronF said:
You have to do it blindfolded sometimes? Is the only way to know which way is up is by feeling the direction of the bubbles?
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Like I said, you just anchor yourself with your hand and use it to navigate around known reference points in the aircraft
 
If you have air in your lungs, you will know which way is up...before you blindfold look carefully at your surroundings and determine your escape routes.

Do not forget that you will begin to move towards the surface if you let go (from personal experience ;) ) so be certain you have positive control until you have fully egressed from the vehicle.
 
Man when I did the refresher dunker, I was in the last port seat and the 4th evolution (blindfolded out the same door) the AF guy next to me freaks out thrashes about and smacks me as we roll over and then kicks me in the face as I am counting seats and crossing the aisle. The rescue swimmers had to pull him up hacking and coughing. Gotta say the refresher was easier as you knew it was all mental. A lot of it is which seat you get for the harder dunks.
Dilbert is a joke and despite the noise,and the "Officer and a Gentleman" aura its is a piece of cake.
 
granlistillo said:
Man when I did the refresher dunker, I was in the last port seat and the 4th evolution (blindfolded out the same door) the AF guy next to me freaks out thrashes about and smacks me as we roll over and then kicks me in the face as I am counting seats and crossing the aisle. The rescue swimmers had to pull him up hacking and coughing. Gotta say the refresher was easier as you knew it was all mental. A lot of it is which seat you get for the harder dunks.
Dilbert is a joke and despite the noise,and the "Officer and a Gentleman" aura its is a piece of cake.
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Was that the helo dunker?
 
I was in the starboard front seat for my last dunk...we were to egress through the Starboard large door. I counted, then made my way around to the exit point, then grabbed to pull out...as I pulled I let go (not moving my legs) and crashed into the top of the door...stars everywhere! I had just taken a shot to the head, and was inside the dunker blindfolded... I just relaxed, then slowly moved my arms left and right until I felt a perforated post, that I could identify, reached back to the right and found the gunner door felt around the top to be sure I would clear and pulled free....they had to pass me :)
 
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