UND Abbreviated Private Pilot Course

DeuceOfAces

DeuceOfAces

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Hi all,

I'm considering all my options for transferring to a university flight training program this fall and UND is in my top 3. Thing is, I'm planning on earning my private from a local fbo by the time the fall semester starts. Apparently, UND won't allow immediate enrollment into its instrument courses but would require me to take Avit 102 (PPL ground school) along with an abbreviated private flight training course. Anybody know about how many lessons/hours (and dollars!) that flying consists of? In previous threads I've read, it ranges between 7-12 lessons. Does this also mean I'd only fly those few couple hours my entire first semester at UND?

This matters because if I'm going to to spend, say, $8500 on my private here then another, I dunno, $2000 at UND to prove that I can fly (lol!) I might as well just wait and take the full Private course at UND.
 
You can take 112. I think it's 7 lessons with the last one being the equivalent of your PPL checkride. Cost per hour is approximately 175 dollars an hour, so depends how quickly you get use to G1000 and the UND way of flying in terms of how much you'll spend. As far as being enrolled in the instrument course they were allowing people to be enrolled in 221 (basic attitude instrument flying course) at the same time as the private pilot course approximately a year ago dunno if they're still doing it.
 
Its not as much of a "We have to re-teach you how to fly" course, as much as it is a "ok, we know you know how to fly, here's how UND does things" course. If you were to jump straight into 221, you'd be lost on all the SP&Ps and STAN procedures. That being said, if your quality of training outside is not good, it will turn into a "How did you get your certificate, again?!" course, and then the costs start going up. If you get quality training, even with the 7 lesson AVIT 112, it can still be cheaper than coming here for 102. HOWEVER if you start it outside, finish it outside, if you get more than halfway through DO NOT ENROLL at UND until you are finished because if you do get all the way to checkride prep but don't finish, you have to start from the beginning of AVIT 102.
 
Honestly I would probably start at UND. I did 112 and it ended up costing me bout $2500 on top of the money I spent on my PPL. The latest course outline has it at only 5 flight lessons and some ground. It also would have been nice to have more time to get used to UND procedures. The 112 stage was the hardest I've taken at UND so far, and that was just months after I passed my PPL checkride :confused:
 
Do your training outside of UND!!! Best damn decision I ever made. Get to experience aviation the way it should be and you'll learn a handful of useful practices you can apply in the real world. Of course UND will have their own special way about some things, but you will be well equipped when you leave the "bubble"...also if you train at a 141 school, all you have to do is show your graduation certificate and UND will waive the 102 ground school for you! At least I think they still might
 
Appreciate all the responses!

Now if I'm I'm understanding correctly, the only flying I'd be allowed do my entire first semester are those handful of AVIT 112 flying lessons? That's no fun...
 
You're honestly better off doing your PPL here as it will give you more time to learn "UNDs way". That way your semester would be more interesting.
 
gotWXdagain said:
You aren't allowed to have fun here anymore. :(

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When you are flying with a student who is probably a little nervous wanting to perform to lesson standards, I think it is up to the instructor to make it fun. I used to get so many Chinese students that would call and want to do a lesson with me because they are not learning from their instructor or they don't feel comfortable flying with their instructor. I'm not saying I was the best instructor but I knew how to have fun, joke, and laugh but also when to be serious and that made an impact on lots of students. I remember over hearing a lot of pre and post flight briefings of instructors and students and most of the time it was so depressing and negative that I would have probably just quit flying and changed majors if I was one of those students. It is possible to have fun and most of the time I think it is up to he instructor to make it that way.
 
DeuceOfAces said:
Appreciate all the responses!

Now if I'm I'm understanding correctly, the only flying I'd be allowed do my entire first semester are those handful of AVIT 112 flying lessons? That's no fun...
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They offer an 8-week 221 ground school that's backloaded at the end of the semester, so 112 students who are finished with 112 flight training are allowed to co-enroll in that course. AVIT102 ground school is taken only for college credit and not for FAR 141 credit, thus the exception.
 
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