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U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO)

Douglas

Old School KSUX
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

anybody know what kind of planes they fly?
 

b3181981

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

I find it kind of crummy that a Sector Enforcement Specialist tops out at 84,913.00 a year and a AIRCRAFT/AIRPLANE/HELICOPTER PILOT (AIR INTERDICTION AGENT) tops out at 70,843.00 .
 

Tworotor7

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

I applied a few weeks ago...You thinking about it?

Nick
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

I find it kind of crummy that a Sector Enforcement Specialist tops out at 84,913.00 a year and a AIRCRAFT/AIRPLANE/HELICOPTER PILOT (AIR INTERDICTION AGENT) tops out at 70,843.00 .
Usually the customs guys pay about 85K for most of their jobs. If you are prior military, you can roll your prior time into your retirement with them.
Bonus, you can carry a gun...
 

MikeFavinger

Hubschrauber Flieger
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

Is there a reason you haven't applied? Location?
I applied about a year and a half ago but didn't have the 1500TT. I have the times now, and applied today, even though I hadn't planned on getting another flying job.

Since this job flies only 200 hours a year or so (perfect!), has okay pay, good benefits, and is stable, I figured I'd go ahead and toss my application on the presumably large stack.
 

BillErvin

Peddling as fast as I can
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

I find it kind of crummy that a Sector Enforcement Specialist tops out at 84,913.00 a year and a AIRCRAFT/AIRPLANE/HELICOPTER PILOT (AIR INTERDICTION AGENT) tops out at 70,843.00 .
At the GS11 Pay rate which is where you'll start, its base pay is $48,148.00. Journeyman pilots top at GS13 now I believe, which is $89,217.00 for a GS13 step 10. With locality pay and Law Enforcement Availability Pay(LEAP) its over 100K a year, after about 10 years. QOL is a heck of a lot better than a RJ Pilot, unless your stationed the Rio Grande Valley somewhere:nana2:

Leap is 25% of the base pay added to base and locality, sort of advanced overtime, It works out to be about 1.5 to 2 hours per day. Some days you work more sometimes you work less. Most of us that were paid leap tried real hard to make it come out an even 10 hours a week.

CBP Air OPs which is a combination of the legacy Customs Air OPs and legacy US Border Patrol Air OPs fly P-3s (have to be rated ie. Navy P3 Pilot) and they fly mostly Caribbean or South America, H-60s, Astars, Boeing(MD) 400s, Slowtations with tracking radar, 182s, 206s, 210s, what you fly depends on where your stationed. They use to have a few King Airs set up for marine surveillance not sure if they still have those.

Look up pay at http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/indexGS.asp This will give you a good idea of pay.

Each step promotes like this: 1st four steps promote each year, next 3 steps every three years, after that every five years. Confused yet? :D

Usually you'll promote through the grades first (GS11 to 12 then 12 to 13) each year, then start on the steps after you've reached journeyman level.

Now that I've really confused you:bandit: If you have Questions PM me, I retired from the Feds a few months ago, but still have some friends from the old USBP flying for them.

Bill
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

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CBP Air OPs which is a combination of the legacy Customs Air OPs and legacy US Border Patrol Air OPs fly P-3s (have to be rated ie. Navy P3 Pilot) .

Now that I've really confused you:bandit: If you have Questions PM me, I retired from the Feds a few months ago, but still have some friends from the old USBP flying for them.

Bill
You can get a civillian P-3 rating :D here but not sure how competitive you would be against a Navy P-3 guy with a couple thousand hours in model.
 

deek

New Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

This is something I'm really interested in, but only flying 200-300 hours a year makes it seem like they would fill the 8 hour days with paper pushing from behind a desk. I kinda got into flying to get away from that. Plus I'm willing to eat my young to get out of Texas, I would be very depressed if they stationed me back here, and it looks like 2/3 of their bases are in Texas. FL or CA, maybe AZ and I'd be cool.
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

I applied about a year and a half ago but didn't have the 1500TT. I have the times now, and applied today, even though I hadn't planned on getting another flying job.

Since this job flies only 200 hours a year or so (perfect!), has okay pay, good benefits, and is stable, I figured I'd go ahead and toss my application on the presumably large stack.
Good Luck!
 

BillErvin

Peddling as fast as I can
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

You can get a civillian P-3 rating :D here but not sure how competitive you would be against a Navy P-3 guy with a couple thousand hours in model.
Last time I saw the job open up about five years ago, they required 2k in type. That would limit all those except Navy P3 guys or a few guys flying the fire fighter version. (most of those are probably squids too) You also have to be under the age of 37 when hired or with a wavier 40, because of Law Enforcement Retirement provisions:bandit:
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

Last time I saw the job open up about five years ago, they required 2k in type. That would limit all those except Navy P3 guys or a few guys flying the fire fighter version. (most of those are probably squids too) You also have to be under the age of 37 when hired or with a wavier 40, because of Law Enforcement Retirement provisions:bandit:
Currently the aerial fire fighters only have 2 pilots with Navy experience.
 

BillErvin

Peddling as fast as I can
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

If anybody is going to Oshkosh, CBP air Ops has a display in the Federal Pavilion they can answer most any question you have.
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

You with P3s out at Pt Magu (Ventura)?
negative but I do represent.... I mean resent that squid comment....

Most of the Aerial Firefighters (P2s, P3s, S2s) all come from a crop dusting background, with very few military guys in the mix. I used to fly the p3s in the military a few years ago. I don't think the customs guys are hiring for P-3s right now. Last I heard they were rewinging a bunch of their slicks.
 

BillErvin

Peddling as fast as I can
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

negative but I do represent.... I mean resent that squid comment....

Most of the Aerial Firefighters (P2s, P3s, S2s) all come from a crop dusting background, with very few military guys in the mix. I used to fly the p3s in the military a few years ago. I don't think the customs guys are hiring for P-3s right now. Last I heard they were rewinging a bunch of their slicks.
Chill now!! I was a squid, once upon a time:nana2:. Retired out of the Army Reserve but started life as a Corpsman, two and a half years with Marine ANGLCO and one with VA147 (in the A-7 days) at Lamoore and on the Constellation

The P3 jobs were alway far and few between, but I loved the look of those things with the radome on top. I assumed the domes came off the E2

The mixing of Customs and Border Patrol flying (CBP) hasn't gone well, with a lot of finger pointing back and forth. I was good friends with guys on both sides, but most have retired now.
 

mjg407

Well-Known Member
Re: Aircraft/airplane/helicopter Pilot (air Interdiction Age

Chill now!! I was a squid, once upon a time:nana2:. Retired out of the Army Reserve but started life as a Corpsman, two and a half years with Marine ANGLCO and one with VA147 (in the A-7 days) at Lamoore and on the Constellation

The P3 jobs were alway far and few between, but I loved the look of those things with the radome on top. I assumed the domes came off the E2

The mixing of Customs and Border Patrol flying (CBP) hasn't gone well, with a lot of finger pointing back and forth. I was good friends with guys on both sides, but most have retired now.
Yeah I know a lot of guys, in both the Jax and Corpus squadrons. You are correct that the dome was off the E-2. Customs didn't follow the Navy's fatigue inspections initially and that's why they are now in a pickle.
 
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