Two Marine F/A-18's Missing

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Ouch; I hope the pilots are ok.

On a different note, were these Hornets actually based on the Carl Vinson or just using their ATC? I've never heard of Marine aircraft behind based on aircraft carriers before (except for the shorter ones that carry Harriers).
 
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On a different note, were these Hornets actually based on the Carl Vinson or just using their ATC? I've never heard of Marine aircraft behind based on aircraft carriers before (except for the shorter ones that carry Harriers).

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F/A-18s, & EA-6Bs are carrier born, just like the Navy. They used the same aircraft, and operate off of the smae ships.

The Marines used to have A-6s too.

I have no idea if they were based on the Vinson, but there is no reason they couldn't be.


Harriers are based on the smaller LHA and LHD amphibious assult ships. They need to get a running start in order to take off with any payload. Then they land verticialy like a helo.
 
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Then they land verticialy like a helo.

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Why can't they just take off vertically too?
 
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Then they land verticialy like a helo.

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Why can't they just take off vertically too?

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Much heavier at takeoff. The same is true for helicopters. If too heavy they need a running start.
 
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Why can't they just take off vertically too?

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They can, but only with 45 minuets worth of gas, and no bombs.

Also, when hovering there isn't enough airflow to cool the turbine blades. Durring hover, they ae cooled by water from an internal tank. There is only about 60-90 seconds worth of water available.
 
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Doesn't look like they made it out alive :

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military has found the body of the pilot of one of two Marine Corps jets that crashed in Iraq and believes the warplanes may have collided in mid-air, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.


The U.S. military lost contact with the two Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornet aircraft in Iraq on Monday night, a military statement said. The planes were flying from the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, the military said.

In Washington, defense officials said they suspected the two fighters collided in mid-air at 30,000 feet, but no final conclusion had been reached.

One official, who asked not to be identified, said an emergency beacon from one of the planes was located on the ground about 25 km (15.53 miles) southwest of Kerbala.

The U.S. military found the body of the pilot of one of the planes, according to the statement.

But officials said the U.S. military had not located the second crash site.

"We have not found the second pilot," a military spokesman said in Baghdad. "The planes were flying too high to be shot down."

A heavy sandstorm and lightning hit central Iraq on Monday night.
 
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Doesn't look like they made it out alive :

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - .....................One official, who asked not to be identified, said an emergency beacon from one of the planes was located on the ground about 25 km (15.53 miles) southwest of Kerbala.

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That's kind of weird. Wonder if the pilot was alive post ejection? I say this, because it's standard to have the ejection seat ELT set to manual (vice auto activation) for combat due to the enemy being able to DF you just as easily as the friendlies. Normally, the ELT activates upon ejection, but it this case, it would've needed to have been manually activated.
 
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