Turbine Time vs. Twin Time

matteo

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What kind of time is more valuable if you're trying to get into the right seat of a jet?

Single Engine Turbine Time (like a Caravan/Pilatus) or Piston Twin Time (Baron/Cessna 402)
 
Twin time.


The general rule of thumb is multi time gets you on with a regional, captain time at a regional gets you on at a major.
 
What kind of time is more valuable if you're trying to get into the right seat of a jet?

Single Engine Turbine Time (like a Caravan/Pilatus) or Piston Twin Time (Baron/Cessna 402)

Depends on where you are going. I am guessing the regionals? If you have 50 to 100 hrs multi, I think the turbine might be better, but if you dont get the multi first. JMO
 
I am going to go with a guy who has PC-12 time over a guy with Baron time. One is a high altitude, high performance, complex, pressurized, glass cockpit aircraft and one is an old skool piston.
 
I am going to go with a guy who has PC-12 time over a guy with Baron time. One is a high altitude, high performance, complex, pressurized, glass cockpit aircraft and one is an old skool piston.

That is also complex and high performance. And it has that second engine.

I'm just saying...
 
lol... well I'm wanting to fly for Planesense in a PC-12.. but I want to be able to move on if I can. I'm not there yet, but I think I'd want to stay fractionals, either NetJets/Flex/CitiationShares...
 
Right now for NetJets the minimums (bare minimums, not sure what competitive is) are 2500/500
 
I've got about 3000 hours. 2600ish SEL, 400ish MEL. 1200 Turbine (almost all of it PIC). I flew PC-12's and Meridians for 2.5 years. I've since gone on to fly King Airs. I had about 220 hours Multi when I got my current job. While I didnt have much multi, I had a lot of good turbine time.

So, it worked for me. It may not work for everybody though.
 
I've got about 3000 hours. 2600ish SEL, 400ish MEL. 1200 Turbine (almost all of it PIC). I flew PC-12's and Meridians for 2.5 years. I've since gone on to fly King Airs. I had about 220 hours Multi when I got my current job. While I didnt have much multi, I had a lot of good turbine time.

So, it worked for me. It may not work for everybody though.

that looks like downtown KC in the background of your avatar... looks like the 6B ramp, same background as in my avatar. lol.... you fly outta MKC?

where'd you fly a PC-12?
 
What it comes down to is, if an airline requires 100 multi, your application is going to be thrown out if you don't meet that minimum requirement. Even if they accept less than their advertised requirement (which will ony happen when they are doing a lot of hiring and are getting desperate) there is some hard number, they just don't advertise it. It dosn't matter if you have 5000 hours of turbine PIC, if you don't have the multi time, you will be passed up for the guy with 900 hours in a 152 and 100 hours in a Seminole. Does it make sense? Not really. But its reality. I think the reason is, in the age of technology, of electronic applications and even paper resumes are scanned by computers, the guy with 5000 hours turbine PIC but short on multi time will be automaticaly deleted. The people doing the hiring are not even going to know that person exists because he gets rejected by computers before they even get to see them. Now, once you meet the minimum requirement, turbine time can start to look pretty darn good, but you had better know the airplane pretty well come interview time.
 
By sheer definition, I understand.

However, the systems and overall complexity is not comparable, IMO.


I'll argue that an old 414 is more complex than a PC-12. In the PC-12 there are no worries about fuel, cowl flaps, leaning, props, ect. Even the de-ice boots are set on a three toggle switch, blowing at 3 or 5 minutes intervals. Then again, I only have a whopping hour in the left seat of a Pilatus, but it sure seemed a lot less complex than the 414.

I would choose the Pilatus job over a 414 job if everthing else were the same. That airplane is just amazing. I would choose the 414 job over a Caravan or Meridian job though. When it comes to most corporate jobs, the multi requirements are normally much higher than the turbine requirements.

Alex.
 
I'll argue that an old 414 is more complex than a PC-12. In the PC-12 there are no worries about fuel, cowl flaps, leaning, props, ect. Even the de-ice boots are set on a three toggle switch, blowing at 3 or 5 minutes intervals. Then again, I only have a whopping hour in the left seat of a Pilatus, but it sure seemed a lot less complex than the 414.

I would choose the Pilatus job over a 414 job if everthing else were the same. That airplane is just amazing. I would choose the 414 job over a Caravan or Meridian job though. When it comes to most corporate jobs, the multi requirements are normally much higher than the turbine requirements.

Alex.

I was comparing the PC-12 to the Baron. There's no doubt the 414 can be a challenging airplane.
 
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