Yeah i did my CMEL with Tom in the Apache. Great outfit...best prices I have ever seen and the plane is pretty nice for an older plane. The only thing is WEATHER...but thats Northern MI for ya. Can't give that guy enough props though.Are you going to fly the Apache? No Way!! If you are, I really think you will enjoy it. It's not new, and probably doesnt have much as far as instruments, but you will learn some good stuff. Have fun!