Transferring Schools

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BlazingRicker

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I am currently enrolled in the CIME program at flight safety. I have my private, multi. Due to cost issues, I am thinking of transferring to another 141 school to finish up with my instrument, commercial and eventually my CFI. My question is if all of my commercial time building at flight safety will transfer to the new school? I already have my commercial, and instrument knowledge tests out of the way but someone told me that only 50% of my commercial time building will transfer to the new school. Any truth to this? I was also wondering if anyone knew what the minimum hour requirements were to get an instrument license and a commercial license? I know I can find out in the FAR/AIM but i am on the road and don't have it with me. I have 163TT, 61 X/C. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
Dude, the hours in your logbook are YOUR hours. You paid for them. No flight school will declare your hours 'ineligible' unless the hours were falsely logged in the first place. Hours are not like college credit. They are immutable. Whoever said only 50% of your hours will transfer probably has an intrest in keeping you where you are by lying to you.

I strongly suggest you beg/borrow/steal a FAR/AIM TODAY and read 91 and 61 on the logging of flight time. Don't let some school B.S. you, 'cause right now it looks like you're a lamb to the slaughter.
 
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Dude, the hours in your logbook are YOUR hours. You paid for them. No flight school will declare your hours 'ineligible' unless the hours were falsely logged in the first place. Hours are not like college credit. They are immutable. Whoever said only 50% of your hours will transfer probably has an intrest in keeping you where you are by lying to you.

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Unless he transferes to a different 141 school...then they may not all count...
 
From 141.77


§ 141.77 Limitations.

(a) The holder of a pilot school certificate or a provisional pilot school certificate may not issue a graduation certificate to a student, or recommend a student for a pilot certificate or rating, unless the student has:

(1) Completed the training specified in the pilot school's course of training; and

(2) Passed the required final tests.

(b) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, the holder of a pilot school certificate or a provisional pilot school certificate may not graduate a student from a course of training unless the student has completed all of the curriculum requirements of that course;

(c) A student may be given credit towards the curriculum requirements of a course for previous pilot experience and knowledge, provided the following conditions are met:

(1) If the credit is based upon a part 141-approved training course, the credit given that student for the previous pilot experience and knowledge may be 50 percent of the curriculum requirements and must be based upon a proficiency test or knowledge test, or both, conducted by the receiving pilot school;

(2) If the credit is not based upon a part 141-approved training course, the credit given that student for the previous pilot experience and knowledge shall not exceed more than 25 percent of the curriculum requirements and must be based upon a proficiency test or knowledge test, or both, conducted by the receiving pilot school;

(3) The receiving school determines the amount of course credit to be transferred under paragraph (c)(1) or paragraph (c)(2) of this section, based on a proficiency test or knowledge test, or both, of the student; and

(4) Credit for training specified in paragraph (c)(1) or paragraph (c)(2) of this section may be given only if the previous provider of the training has certified in writing, or other form acceptable to the Administrator as to the kind and amount of training provided, and the result of each stage check and end-of-course test, if applicable, given to the student.

Make more sense now?
 
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I would think that the time would count at a 61 school. Time is time right? I can see how a 141 school might not count some time, since they have a syllabus to follow. ????

Just out of curiousity, why are you thinking of leaving?

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I would think that the time would count at a 61 school.

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It absolutely counts at a part 61 school. But if you go from one 141 school to another, even if the syllabi are the same, you lose some of the credit!
 
Thanks for the help guys. I guess that I do lose half of my commercial time building. Sucks!! The reasons for leaving are that I am gonna be working at the other school doing some teaching when I get my CFI and operations stuff and I can save a ton of money. But now if I lose half my time, then it may not be woth it.
 
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Me understand.

What a terrible rule! Having only had experience with pt.61 schools, I find the possibility of loosing half your flight time by transferring unconscinable. What is the point?
 
Anybody know what the minimum X/C time for commercial license is? With my time being cut in half it would give me 30 hrs X/C. Once again, thanks for the help.
 
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Me understand.

What a terrible rule! Having only had experience with pt.61 schools, I find the possibility of loosing half your flight time by transferring unconscinable. What is the point?

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You don't lose the flight time, you just lose credit for part of a syllabus being completed. They can't take the time away! So for instance, if you complete 1/2 of your instrument rating at one 141 school, you may have to begin at the start of the instrument course at another 141 school. You still have those hours though.

The issue here is that each lesson must be complete at a 141 school before you can take your checkride, so it all depends on how many lessons the new school will complete (give credit) for the hours you are bringing in.

I got 1/2 of my "step 2" credited to me at FSA because I came in with 120 hours. It saved me some time and money, as well as a stage check.

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Anybody know what the minimum X/C time for commercial license is?

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I'm pretty sure the minimum is 50 hrs.
 
So I guess that between the 30 credited hours I would have and the minimal x/c time i would get during instrument at the other school, it would put me at around 35-40 hours and I would only have to make up 10hrs. Not too bad but still a bummer.....
 
yeah i guess you could look at it both ways and 10 hrs doesnt seem too long, especially if you may be getting it anyways
 
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