Total Time earned while at Riddle?

Stormflyer

Stormflyer

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I have another question. At Embry-Riddle (PRC campus), how much total time could you expect to earn by graduation, assuming you come in with 0 TT and you do all of it up to CFI/CFII/MEI? I've heard 280 hours or something, just wanted to confirm this. I realize it can vary.

Also, I thought that Embry-Riddle students get their multiengine rating before the instrument rating. Is this true? If so, does this mean that a lot of your flying from then on will be in the Seminoles? I like the idea of a lot of ME time because despite the cost, it is important, especially considering of the state of the industry right now. Of course, things could definitely change by the time I'm ready to be hired by an airline, I'm just a high school junior right now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I started at ERAU with zero total, and went through my commercial there. I had roughly 240 hours when I was done, with a solid 30 of that being done outside of ERAU on my own time. I completed CFI/CFII/MEI elsewhere, and now I'm at around 270 total. I couldn't tell you how much time it takes for the Riddle crowd to do their CFI/CFII here (they won't train you for your MEI unless you work there).

And yes, PRC does multi before instrument. You gain a good amount of multi hours by the time you're done (roughly 50-60).
 
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And yes, PRC does multi before instrument. You gain a good amount of multi hours by the time you're done (roughly 50-60).

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Ahhhhhh, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Instrument training in AZ......you kill me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Only clouds out there are cumulo-granite.

RiddlePilot, I hope you don't think I'm picking on you personally again /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I still think ME training before Comm/Instr is a BIG waste of money. I know it is a lot of fun and good practice but keep things in perspective. Typically, you are going to walk away from college and go to be a CFI, banner pilot, etc. Mostly SEL flying with the occassional ME student if you are lucky. When you go for that "interview" you will probably not be anywhere near current/proficient in multi flying. Unless you go and spend more money to stay current. That gets old REAL fast on CFI wages.

The other side of the coin:
Around here a SEL goes for +/- $65 and a twin for $250+. You are flying much faster than needed, gaining LESS instrument/total time. You are having to keep up with the extra workload of the gear/prop. All while giving the FBO 200% greater income.

50hrs x $65 = $3250
50hrs x $250 = $12,500

Now compare that to your first year CFI wages. Heck, compare that to 1st year Regional wages (17k-20k).


Remember the saying KISS. Keep it simple....... Don't make things more complicated than you need to. Besides with both engines running, there is nothing different between a SEL and a MEL other than fuel/money flow /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif .
I know you are going faster, but there really isn't that much difference in a 100 kt app in a C172 and a 140 kt app in a twin. Now, intercepting a VOR approach at 350 kts, that is a kick in the pants. They slowed us to 160 kts going in to ATL a few days ago and we about pulled our hair out. We were going to blame it on the RJs until we saw the DC9 on roleout. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif
:45 min flight, normal speed for :06 minutes. ugh.
 
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Instrument training in AZ......you kill me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Only clouds out there are cumulo-granite.

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Actualy when I graduated Riddle (PRC) I had about 4.5 hours of actual instrument time... It is hard to get, but can be done...

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I still think ME training before Comm/Instr is a BIG waste of money. I know it is a lot of fun and good practice but keep things in perspective. Typically, you are going to walk away from college and go to be a CFI, banner pilot, etc. Mostly SEL flying with the occassional ME student if you are lucky.

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I disagree here... Doing a decent portion of your training in a twin is very productive. It teaches you to expand your attention span and Situational Awareness do to the higher workload and added complexity... When I graduate Riddle I had about 57 hours of Multi-Time...

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Around here a SEL goes for +/- $65 and a twin for $250+.

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Not sure what the current rates are around here, but when I was at Riddle we were paying $50/hr for a C-172 and $90/hr for the Seminole, instructor was $25/hr regardless... You don't do all of your advanced training in the twin, there is plenty in the Single as well... Just a larger number of hours in the twin than most other schools offer...

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You are flying much faster than needed, gaining LESS instrument/total time. You are having to keep up with the extra workload of the gear/prop.

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Well I must have always flew the "bad" twin... seemed like I always had an engine out, so I wasn't flying around much faster... I spent a lot of time at 85 KIAS (Blue Line) in the old Seminole...

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50hrs x $65 = $3250
50hrs x $250 = $12,500

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I'll use my comparison as it more accurately resembles what Riddle offers... Not all of that advanced flying was/is in the twin...

50 hours x $50 = $2500
25 hrs (single) x $50 + 25 hrs (twin) x $90 = $3500

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with both engines running, there is nothing different between a SEL and a MEL other than fuel/money flow

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He inlies the "catch", you usually don't have both engines turning during a good portion of this training...

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Now, intercepting a VOR approach at 350 kts, that is a kick in the pants.

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And an FAA Violation waiting to happen! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif j/k
 
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Not sure what the current rates are around here, but when I was at Riddle we were paying $50/hr for a C-172 and $90/hr for the Seminole, instructor was $25/hr regardless... You don't do all of your advanced training in the twin, there is plenty in the Single as well... Just a larger number of hours in the twin than most other schools offer...

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I think the current rates are just a tiny bit higher now.



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Last I heard, the C172s are $90/hr, and the Seminoles are $195/hr. Instruction adds another $48/hr for both planes. Seriously, those prices are fairly normal compared to most flight schools.

As for the instrument training...I had something like 2.0 when I finished my instrument, but I went cloud chasing to rack up some more. In fact, I ended up hobbling back to PRC one night with an inch of mixed ice (easily the pivotal event in my career thus far).../ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Last I heard, the C172s are $90/hr, and the Seminoles are $195/hr. Instruction adds another $48/hr for both planes. Seriously, those prices are fairly normal compared to most flight schools.

As for the instrument training...I had something like 2.0 when I finished my instrument, but I went cloud chasing to rack up some more. In fact, I ended up hobbling back to PRC one night with an inch of mixed ice (easily the pivotal event in my career thus far).../ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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Those prices are Pretty good compared to the places in my Neck of the woods.
 
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Now, intercepting a VOR approach at 350 kts, that is a kick in the pants.
And an FAA Violation waiting to happen! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif j/k

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Yea, we did it in the sim into one of the high mountain airports where the IAF is above 10K.
The FMS/MFD had a hard time keeping up with that intercept. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You came out about 30 hours ME ahead of me, and 15 hrs less on actual. Of course, in hindsight with a few thousand ME, 30 hrs is pretty invisible now.

I was paying 100/hr for a twin-C and 45/hr "late model" 172.
 
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