Too fast.......too high!

mrivc211

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I've been doing trips into northern cali this month. On our second day we start in CIC and go to SFO then MFR etc etc. Well my leg going into MFR we start our decent from FL260 and make our way down to 10,000'. I look down and since we're about 97 miles away I don't use the VNAV to calculate our best rate of decent.
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About 40 miles out, we have to cross one last peak that sits at about 7,800' and then cleared to decend into the valley. Since we were in a slow decent I had our IAS at about 250 and our GS was showing 340 or so. I think to myself........I should probably bring it back a little. I forget that the 120 is a whole different animal full (which we were that day) than empty. Eventually our 40nm distance from the airport evaporates to nothing and I find myself HIGH and too fast for a gear extension (200IAS or below) to slow the bird down. I now had a last minute choice. Pitch down steeply and bleed the speed off once level at a lower altitude or slow it up at 7500' drop the gear bring in some flaps and chop it and drop it.

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I choice to point the nose down and get down ASAP then dirty it up. Wrong choice! Since we were heavy the thing just did not want to slow down. Finally, neil- the captain/ check airmen I'm flying with says your not gonna make it dumb***. He asks for a left 360 and while were doing it he goes off and makes fun of me to the best of his ability. (we're very good friends- I can call him any name in the book and he'd laugh at it) " you call yourself a professional pilot- this is embarrassing- etc etc. I'm laughing the whole time and turning red. So we finally land approx 1.5 minutes later than we would have and we depart without anything unusual.

Well all I gotta say is pay back's a motha! Finishing our trip today, on the south side of the san jacinto mountains at about 11,000' we get cleared for the visual- his leg. The usual PSP approach we drop the gear, push the props forward and drop like a rock. Well, instead of the usual left traffic for 31L he requests right traffic 13R. Doing so makes the approach much more difficult where as you really have to be on top of your game to get down ASAP. So we make our way down. On downwind still at 3500' he extends downwind slightly(10 seconds) to point out a nudist colony. The runway is on my side and he can't see it. Well he starts turning base and then final. I realize he's not gonna make it and before I say anything he keys the mic and asks for a left 360!

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I really can't repeat the words I said to him. Let's just say his face was more red than mine. I told him thats what he gets for talkin smack!!!!!!!

Funny thing karma is.
 
An awfully cavalier attitude for messing up so bad. I know I wouldn't have been "laughing the whole time".

You've told this story like you're proud of it. Personally, I'd have kept it to myself.
 
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An awfully cavalier attitude for messing up so bad. I know I wouldn't have been "laughing the whole time".

You've told this story like you're proud of it. Personally, I'd have kept it to myself.

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I'd laugh too and use it as a learning lesson!!! Why keep it to yourself that is funny as he**.
 
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An awfully cavalier attitude for messing up so bad. I know I wouldn't have been "laughing the whole time".

You've told this story like you're proud of it. Personally, I'd have kept it to myself.

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Take it easy there big guy. Lifes to short to be so serious. There wasn't a safety issue involved. Just some bruised egos. If I can walk away from that laughing at something stupid I did and learn from it, whats the there to keep to yourself?

Reference to the audience listeing/watching-

You know theres always some know it all/Smart guy who turns a funny thread into something totally stupid.

Thanks
 
Well he knew where the nudist colony was -- that's maintaining situational awareness!
 
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Well he knew where the nudist colony was -- that's maintaining situational awareness!

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Exactly! Good SA is very important!
 
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An awfully cavalier attitude for messing up so bad. I know I wouldn't have been "laughing the whole time".

You've told this story like you're proud of it. Personally, I'd have kept it to myself.



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Yeah, like if you bust airspace you should just turn off the transponder and not respond to any radio calls.
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Anyone who can laugh at, and learn from, their mistakes is someone I'd be happy to be sitting next to in the cockpit. Omar has one of the best attitudes of anyone you'll ever meet, and this story is a good example of that.
 
Awesome story! Like you said, no safety issues just a good learning experience. Like they say, the day you stop learning in an airplane is the day you stop flying. Man I can't wait to earn my professional wings.
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Hey you sell out camel jockey- you comin to Vegas this year?

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Yeah partner! I should be back from Korea by the 15-20 October timeframe...cutting it close, but I plan to make it! Be cool to hook up with the crowd again.
 
Now if I called Mike that, he'd declare jihad on me!
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I can hear Mike already... "Jihad, partner, nah I'd just whip your ass"
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Now if I called Mike that, he'd declare jihad on me!
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I can hear Mike already... "Jihad, partner, nah I'd just whip your ass"
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It's an Arab thing bro....

-matthew
 
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It's an Arab thing bro....


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Asalaam malakim!

Funny story about Mike, which I'll tell.

So me, Mike and Joe go down to Mike's house in Paradise Valley. His parents are speaking Farsi and we ask "Hey Mike, what are they saying?"

His answer?

"I dunno partner! They always speak Farsi when they don't want me to hear what they're saying!"

Or something like that!
 
Funny story....

Today at work this guy named Muhammad who is from Morocco was looking a account that came up in his que.

"He calls me to his screen and says Matthew I need you to translate ghetto for me."

I'm like what? So I get up from my cubicle and walk back to his desk.

"He read the name on the application aloud for me."

It was like Starikka or something. I chuckled aloud I'm like "why'd you want me to pronouce that for you?"

He was all like cause "your a brotha and you look like you can get jiggy wit it."
Then he started rapping 50 cent "Jus A lil Bit" verbatim in his deep,deep arabic accent and throwing gang signs in a mocking jesture.
Lol and dude is like 41-43 yrs. old it was hella funny.


-Matthew
 
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It's an Arab thing bro....


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Asalaam malakim!

Funny story about Mike, which I'll tell.

So me, Mike and Joe go down to Mike's house in Paradise Valley. His parents are speaking Farsi and we ask "Hey Mike, what are they saying?"

His answer?

"I dunno partner! They always speak Farsi when they don't want me to hear what they're saying!"

Or something like that!

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LOL! My parents still ask how you guys are doing and what you're up to.
 
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