Tilt rotor to airline transition?

JordanD

JordanD

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Asking for a friend who is due to get out of the military Flying V-22s at some point down the road. How exactly does that work? Google seems to mostly return outdated or conflicting information, I still have no idea how that time is counted toward things like a restricted ATP.
 
JordanD said:
Asking for a friend who is due to get out of the military Flying V-22s at some point down the road. How exactly does that work? Google seems to mostly return outdated or conflicting information, I still have no idea how that time is counted toward things like a restricted ATP.
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Which service? They should have a Comm-Inst Airplane SEL, Rotorcraft-Helicopter, and Powered Lift category/class ratings if they got their mil equivalency. From what I’ve seen, they seem to be treated like mil helo people for hiring purposes. With the mass hiring wave down, not sure how easy a road they will have.
 
MikeD said:
Which service? They should have a Comm-Inst Airplane SEL, Rotorcraft-Helicopter, and Powered Lift category/class ratings if they got their mil equivalency. From what I’ve seen, they seem to be treated like mil helo people for hiring purposes. With the mass hiring wave down, not sure how easy a road they will have.
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USMC. They’ve converted their stuff to what you listed. Total flight time isn’t super high since I know those guys don’t fly a ton, but I’m wondering if restricted ATP is an option with that much tilt rotor time or if they still need to get out and get more fixed wing time. Seems like a weird rock and a hard place figuring out what counts as what.
 
JordanD said:
USMC. They’ve converted their stuff to what you listed. Total flight time isn’t super high since I know those guys don’t fly a ton, but I’m wondering if restricted ATP is an option with that much tilt rotor time or if they still need to get out and get more fixed wing time. Seems like a weird rock and a hard place figuring out what counts as what.
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May possibly be candidates for regionals for a bit in terms of building flight time, total time along with just getting necessary turbine fixed wing time that they don’t have (aside from the little SEL time they did in Primary), as well as gaining useful 121 time there. Doesn’t help either, the V-22s issues and numerous groundings, limiting flight time to accrue.

USMC is tough as far as the services go, as the majority of their air fleet is rotary wing and now tilt rotor too. They can have a number of pilot training classes go by where there are no fixed wing slots available at track select time, merely due to the low number of tactical jets/units, and the even far fewer number of KC-130 airframes/units. These classes had helo and tilt rotor offerings only, which is unfortunately needs of the service, even if finishing top of class.
 
I dont think airlines give 1:1 time credit for powered lift anyway right? So regionals for a touch n go and then off to a career spot.
 
Shoot me a PM. I know a guy who was a USMC V-22 pilot who is at AA now. I don’t know him well, but well enough that I could connect your friend to him.
 
killbilly said:
Shoot me a PM. I know a guy who was a USMC V-22 pilot who is at AA now. I don’t know him well, but well enough that I could connect your friend to him.
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JordanD said:
Asking for a friend who is due to get out of the military Flying V-22s at some point down the road. How exactly does that work? Google seems to mostly return outdated or conflicting information, I still have no idea how that time is counted toward things like a restricted ATP.
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Same… I could probably find a UA tilt rotor guy if you send me your number or email.
 
Have him ask his bros if any of them are on the "LAB". That is where the gouge is. It's a private naval aviator/former naval aviator to airline/civilian flying forum, personal invite only with 3 additional member votes required, but I'd be surprised if he doesn't know a few people there at this point. This topic has been covered heavily there over the last few years. I just can't recall off the top of my head what the bottom line is, since it was pretty far outside my lane. If he can't find anyone, let me know and I can probably help.
 
Skåning said:
I dont think airlines give 1:1 time credit for powered lift anyway right? So regionals for a touch n go and then off to a career spot.
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One of the former fleet pilots at FedEx went on a personal project to go evaluate the types of flying V-22 guys do and see how Purple should value their time.

Not that it matters, since Purple isn't in danger of hiring anyone soon, but the result of that was FedEx giving essentially full experience credit for tilt-rotor time.

Who knows if that will still be true whenever Purple hires again, since Tom Gregory has retired.
 
Not trying to put a damper on your friend's aspirations and I'm sure he'll be fine, but we just had a new hire V-22 guy wash out. Was given oodles of extra OE time but just couldn't get the concept of "flaring" down and was pounding them in
 
Thanks for the input ya’ll. Sounds like it’s still a ways a way but I’ll be sure to reach out and try to connect him in the future.
 
Get-home-itis said:
Not trying to put a damper on your friend's aspirations and I'm sure he'll be fine, but we just had a new hire V-22 guy wash out. Was given oodles of extra OE time but just couldn't get the concept of "flaring" down and was pounding them in
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Out of sheer curiosity, what type was he training for?
 
In the earlier 2000’s V-22 might as well
Have been MS-flight sim time. Didn’t have one engine out / V1 cut stuff of a FW, didn’t have autorotate emergency like a rotor… so the FAA said it was neither.

I know they’ve sorted the FAA side- but expect some hiring inertia from people who may still feel the same way.
 
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