Thanks, MSNBC.

aloft

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They're running a friggin marathon of "investigative reports" into airliner accidents. Yeah, like people need any more excuses not to fly.
 
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They're running a friggin marathon of "investigative reports" into airliner accidents. Yeah, like people need any more excuses not to fly.

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My girl and I are watching it right now at 1:30 am.

She thought I wouldn't want to watch, but it doesn't bother me. Just something pilots have to deal with.
 
Saw the same report but thought it was more of a look at what these pilots were able to do instead of a "planes are crashing, be careful". The stories were incredible, Al Haynes, ALoha Airlines, and the United 747 that lost a cargo door. I can remember the Al Haynes story vividly because I was in a hotel in San Diego waiting to catch my flight to Pearl Harbor the next day. It was definetly a little unnerving to be getting ready to fly across the ocean the next day after seeing that crash. Again that was an incredible account of how they were able to bring that plane to a landing.
 
All these were amazing feats of airmanship. The recent DHL incident in Iraq was right up there. One incident that gets little attention was the Delta L-1011 that departed SAN with an elevator jammed full nose up. This was in 1977. Later I got to fly with the flight engineer of the flight who recounted what it was like to be pitched uncontrollably nose up, on the verge of stalling, and being sure you were going to die. The captain (can't remember his name) had a test pilot background and most people feel that he was one of the few who could have saved that airplane. The story is part of this article about throttle only flight control.

When they made it into LAX in one piece the passengers were upset about the long SAN-LAX flight time and rough flight conditions. They didn't have a clue how close they came to dying.

http://www.ifalpa.org/Interpilot/2004/Throttles%20Only%20Control.pdf
 
Yeah, I was watching some of those last night also. I grew up in New Orleans, and I remember when that TACA 737 made that unpowered, grass strip landing on a levee.

I also thought it was interesting when they showed camera footage from one of the F-16 that they sent up to take a look at Payne Stewart's airplane and the pilot's conversation with ATC . I knew about the crash, but not the particulars. It was kind of creepy hearing the F-16 pilot telling ATC that the cockpit windows were all fogged or frosted over from the inside and knowing that everyone was likely dead or unconscious within.
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