Start turnout at 400 ft?????

[PlaneCrazy]

So my instructor wants me to show him in where it says that you should start your turn after departure at a minimum of 400 agl. I cant find it anywhere! Is this an actual rule or just something I have just been told by everyone? Please let me know where I can find this in writing. (preferably in the FAR/AIM) Thanks....

 

[tgrayson]

So my instructor wants me to show him in where it says that you should start your turn after departure at a minimum of 400 agl. I cant find it anywhere!

VFR or IFR?

 

[PlaneCrazy]

IFR...I am preparing for my CFII oral.

 

[Bradeku1008]

1) Follow the DP's for the airport 2) Dont start your turn at 400ft. Get some altitude before turning (1000ft or more depending on terrain) it's your best friend at that point.

 

[smig]

AIM 5-2-8 Instrument Departure Procedures (DP) - Obstacle Departure Procedures (ODP) and Standard Instrument Departures (SID)

1. Unless specified otherwise, required obstacle clearance for all departures, including diverse, is based on the pilot crossing the departure end of the runway at least 35 feet above the departure end of runway elevation, climbing to 400 feet above the departure end of runway elevation before making the initial turn, and maintaining a minimum climb gradient of 200 feet per nautical mile...

... If an initial turn higher than 400 feet above the departure end of runway elevation is specified in the DP, the turn should be commenced at the higher altitude. If a turn is specified at a fix, the turn must be made at that fix...

*And remember, a DP or SID may have you doing something else. Hence the words "unless otherwise specified"

 

[MFT1Air]

I love smart people!

 

[PlaneCrazy]

OMG! I looked over AIM 5-2-8 and never noticed the part about 400 ft agl. I feel like a donkey! Must be all that fine print........................makes it hard to see sometimes! THANKS:nana2:

 

[Copperhed51]

Yeah, beat me to it. I actually had this question in my oral for my most recent job. Luckily I had been studying like crazy and was pretty much able to quote the entire passage in the AIM.

 

[smig]

So my instructor wants me to show him in where it says that you should start your turn after departure at a minimum of 400 agl.

Does your instructor not know where to find it? Or did he just want you to know where to find it?

 

[SFCC/UND]

A lot of people don't really look in the AIM.

 

[MFT1Air]

A lot of people don't really look in the AIM.

Oh, people look. . .I don't "retain" it unless it consciously acknowledge it often nor can I source it, but we do look.

 

[Douglas]

Does your instructor not know where to find it? Or did he just want you to know where to find it?

Dude, it was for a II Oral prep. Of course he is going to make him go find it on his own and maybe learn some new things along the way.

 

[minitour]

Dude, it was for a II Oral prep. Of course he is going to make him go find it on his own and maybe learn some new things along the way.

Hell, even student pilots need to be told to "show me where it says..." from time to time.

Gaining knowledge on your own vs. having the instructor spoon feed everything to you. There's a neat-o idea. Kudos to the instructor.

-mini