Staffing

Or a really good contract.

I just did 13:30 block, 17:30 credit and 80 TAFB in a 6 day period.... and I KNOW we are understaffed.

420 active pilots. 49 airplanes. 4.2 crews per plane is not a way to run a railroad.
 
You should see the pairing! I'm going to print it out and frame it. I don't know what our numbers are we are below 700 pilots with 70 a/c. It seems our numbers are similar.
 
Was it one trip? Our contract limits us to no more than 4 sections (typically 3 overnights but it could be less if we go into rest during the day) in a row. Also we can't be scheduled for more than 5 days in a row except during the blend, training or a holiday.

I'm curious to see how you credited 40 hours in 6 days. Or soft time rules suck so it is VERY hard to credit more than 30 in 7.
 
BobDDuck said:
I'm curious to see how you credited 40 hours in 6 days. Or soft time rules suck so it is VERY hard to credit more than 30 in 7.
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I have done it a few times. Under block on a few legs and throw in 3 or 4 DHs and you can hit 35-40 hours.
 
BobDDuck said:
I'm curious to see how you credited 40 hours in 6 days. Or soft time rules suck so it is VERY hard to credit more than 30 in 7.
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Same here. Unless I'm DHing, I've never gone over 30 hours in 7 days of credit. In fact, I've done the OPPOSITE. I've credited less than I've blocked thanks to our "15 minute rule."
 
How do you guys do MX flying? Is there a min you get paid for a flight. I have had a day or two were I credited 9 hours and only blocked 2.
 
Gonzo said:
How do you guys do MX flying? Is there a min you get paid for a flight. I have had a day or two were I credited 9 hours and only blocked 2.
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Pays as straight pay for us. It's rare you see lineholders doing MX flights. If they do it's normally because their regular flight canceled and they are moving the airplane. In that case they get paid the higher of what they actually flew or what was canceled.

If a reserve does MX flying it is like anything else as it counts towards your 72 hours for the month. The company is REALLY good at stopping you at 71.5 hours though.
 
You're on RR though aren't you? Here RR is like a lineholder where as everything you do over 8 hours of duty goes above min guarantee. RR's here credit 100-120 hours regularly if they are busy that month.
 
BobDDuck said:
Pays as straight pay for us. It's rare you see lineholders doing MX flights. If they do it's normally because their regular flight canceled and they are moving the airplane. In that case they get paid the higher of what they actually flew or what was canceled.

If a reserve does MX flying it is like anything else as it counts towards your 72 hours for the month. The company is REALLY good at stopping you at 71.5 hours though.
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XJT does that too. Whatever the reserve bypass number is for the month (say, 60 hours), you will stop flying when you hit 60 hours until every other reserve in base hits 60 hours.

Sucks when you haven't flown all month, and then the next thing you know you're hammered for your last week and a half of work.
 
wheelsup said:
You're on RR though aren't you? Here RR is like a lineholder where as everything you do over 8 hours of duty goes above min guarantee. RR's here credit 100-120 hours regularly if they are busy that month.
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We don't have ready reserve lines. All reserves sit RR from time to time. Some more than others. In February, we had 10 captains on reserve which means each of us should have sat it 3 times. Me and another captain ended up with 6 slots and a few guys ended up with 1 or no slots. Unlike some other guys I just won't stoop to kissing ass on the phone and bribing the schedulers with cookies.


jtrain609 said:
XJT does that too. Whatever the reserve bypass number is for the month (say, 60 hours), you will stop flying when you hit 60 hours until every other reserve in base hits 60 hours.
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But once you get to the bypass number you are off right? You don't have to answer your phone any more and can commute home. Or at least that's how I understood it. Here, they can still call us out if they need us (which does happen from time to time) but they just try very hard not to. Or, they will sit us ready reserve (which gets used about 5% of the time) for the rest of our reserve days and we don't get paid anything. In November I flew 70.3 hours and then sat 3 days (30 hours) of RR the last 3 days of the month. Total pay for the month was 72 hours of guarantee. A scheduler had the nerve to point out that at least I was getting per diem during that time so I shouldn't complain.
 
Looks like us and PSA are fairly similar for reserve: it sucks royally at both. RR pays zilch here. If you sit 9 hours, you get nothing. If you fly during that time, it goes towards your guarantee (which is at least 75 instead of 72). No per diem for RRs, though. There have been several months where I've been over guarantee and suddenly seen a lot of RR shifts instead of actual flying. If I have a day by itself (as in I flew a four day, have one home reserve day, and then I'm off), I'd bet large amounts of money I'll be escalated to RR because they don't want me sitting at home when they can use the guy that was sitting RR for a trip. There's nothing in the contract to keep them from just putting us on RR the whole month, either.

I was on the bus with a lineholder the other day that was extremely proud of the fact he has a good relationship with one of our schedulers. As in the guy will tweak his schedule for him and give him trips that are in open time if no one else has asked for them rather than going through the proper channels. Sad thing is, I know he's not the only one. Conversation started when I was complaining how I drove to the airport for an out and back the other day, only to have it picked up by a lineholder right when I got there. When I asked how a lineholder could grab a trip that's already on someone else's schedule, that's the story I got. And they wonder why the guys on reserve want to kick just about everyone else at the company.....
 
BobDDuck said:
We don't have ready reserve lines. All reserves sit RR from time to time. Some more than others. In February, we had 10 captains on reserve which means each of us should have sat it 3 times. Me and another captain ended up with 6 slots and a few guys ended up with 1 or no slots. Unlike some other guys I just won't stoop to kissing ass on the phone and bribing the schedulers with cookies.
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It is simple. It is because you and I will not bend over and take it where the sun does not shine like others..... Whom are constantly trying to help out, do whatever scheduling needs etc. We follow the contract unlike a lot of our RSV pilots and thus we get hit with HOT more then most.... :) Oh well.... Karma will have to pay them back sooner or later...
 
BobDDuck said:
But once you get to the bypass number you are off right? You don't have to answer your phone any more and can commute home. Or at least that's how I understood it. Here, they can still call us out if they need us (which does happen from time to time) but they just try very hard not to. Or, they will sit us ready reserve (which gets used about 5% of the time) for the rest of our reserve days and we don't get paid anything. In November I flew 70.3 hours and then sat 3 days (30 hours) of RR the last 3 days of the month. Total pay for the month was 72 hours of guarantee. A scheduler had the nerve to point out that at least I was getting per diem during that time so I shouldn't complain.
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Oh no. You're still responsible. On slow months, it means sitting around in the crashpad for days on end with the owner breathing down your neck wondering when your next trip is (for anyone that's stayed at the BI). The closest we have is a provision to be released when you're with 3.75 hours of your minimum monthly guarantee. However, no one in the history of ever has been released. Once you hit that mark, you're paid 3.75 hours for each day worked (like a rig).
 
BobDDuck said:
We don't have ready reserve lines. All reserves sit RR from time to time. Some more than others. In February, we had 10 captains on reserve which means each of us should have sat it 3 times. Me and another captain ended up with 6 slots and a few guys ended up with 1 or no slots. Unlike some other guys I just won't stoop to kissing ass on the phone and bribing the schedulers with cookies.




But once you get to the bypass number you are off right? You don't have to answer your phone any more and can commute home. Or at least that's how I understood it. Here, they can still call us out if they need us (which does happen from time to time) but they just try very hard not to. Or, they will sit us ready reserve (which gets used about 5% of the time) for the rest of our reserve days and we don't get paid anything. In November I flew 70.3 hours and then sat 3 days (30 hours) of RR the last 3 days of the month. Total pay for the month was 72 hours of guarantee. A scheduler had the nerve to point out that at least I was getting per diem during that time so I shouldn't complain.
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EDIT: Whoops, I see it's already been answered.

Yeah the 3.75 thing is an easy way to make some extra ched, but that's all.
 
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