Spanair Madrid Crash Video

deadstick

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Mariano

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Holy-o crap-o. Is there any news on the selected position or cockpit indication?

How long ago was that NWA accident?


The preliminary findings of the investigation says that the flaps weren't deployed at all. It looks like an electrical problem cause the warning system to "think" that the aircraft was in the air.

The company's operation manual calls for checking the warning system before the first flight of the day. This was (I believe) the second flight of that day.
Boeing advices to check the warning system before every flight. This advisory came after a similar accident in the 80's.
 

deadstick

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So the test doesn't "test" properly if the aircraft is airborne (or thinks it's airborne)? But were they not deployed because of the test system or were they not warned that there was a config issue because of the test? Just curious -- MD clueless here.
 

P&H

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So did they forget to command the flaps altogether, or did they set them for takeoff, and the system failed to set the flaps?

If, both, they forgot to command takeoff flaps AND the system failed to warn...the probability of that happening is so remote, it's amazing it actually happened.
 

granlistillo

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If, both, they forgot to command takeoff flaps AND the system failed to warn...the probability of that happening is so remote, it's amazing it actually happened.

Referred to as the "stars lining up" in the accident chain?

I was reading in the Spanish press, that they were investigating whether the deactivation of the T probe somehow somehow disactivated the warning sys.

Also Spanair is changing their procedures where checking the sys occurs before every flight as recommend by Boeing and not just on originating and receiving checklists.
 

crjsomeday

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That was pretty hard to watch. It sound like it could be the same thing as that NW flight years ago. Could it be that they popped a circuit breaker to get the flaps warning to stop making noise? Be careful out there, fly safe!
 
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