Something that should never happen!!!

PCL_128 said:
None of his business? Sorry, but wrong attitude. You want to get into the cockpit of his airliner. That is most certainly "his business." I certainly don't think that the FO should have been rude to you like he was, but I completely understand the Captain's line of questioning. If you had come up to me and said the same thing, then I would have asked the same questions. If you had said you were a newhire pilot from the beginning, then no problem. But just saying that you want to get into the cockpit and talk with the FO without saying why? Nope, I would want more info than that.
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Double :yeahthat:
 
Everyone keeps forgetting that I did not say that to him and I was more than polite to him....he was just being a tool. Lets drop that point.
 
I didn't read the end of his comment....I thought he was implying that I said it was none of his business...another mistake, my apology.

I mean, if I was the Captain I wouldn't have cared....sure go in have at it. I am not the FO officers daddy like she is a girl going on her first date....he is a grown man, if someone wants to talk to him go ahead. What some of you would do is your business...but I wouldn't have acted like that. I can think of at least 5 different ways he could have handled the conversation without coming across like a jerkoff. If I wanted to know what someone wanted, you say something like yeah sure go ahead...and before moving out of the way make small talk like do you know him? I would have then said no, I am a new hire with someone and just wanted to get some info on the plane and didn't want to bother you while you are up here greeting passengers. THE BOTTOM LINE IS.....whether I should have changed how I worded it or not, he could have been nicer to me...or more importantly a passenger because it could have very easily been someone else.
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Now you've really done it - the passenger is NOT our number one priority around here.:sarcasm:
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I know....that seems to be the general theme around here. It is ok, I am holding my ground pretty strong here so I think I can take this too...haha
 
bike21 said:
Nah, not on the ground. I can't tell you how many parents and kids have come up to chat and take a few pictures. I personally like chatting and making good business with the flying public.
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For all you guys who like to play "big stud Airline pilot" by conducting public cockpit tours, ask yourself this...How easy would it be for someone with a little systems knowledge reach out and pull some critical circuit breakers while you're showing Junior the pretty lights. Then, you may fly the rest of the day with no active Engine Fire Warning system and you'd never even know it. And if you tell me you preflight the circuit breaker panel before every leg, I'll call you a liar to your face.

The general public has NO business in the cockpit inflight OR on the ground. Period.
 
Brand X said:
We are required to stand at the top of stairs and say and wave "goodbye and thanks for flying with us" as each container is downloaded from the jet.
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You guys are on your way out before the plane even stops rolling.:) I've never seen crews get the heck out of dodge as fast as you guys.
 
Isn't it amazing how some people expect the world to come to a stop and start spinning around them, just because they have a genuine interest in something?

Oh, well; he's young and giddishly foolishly in love with his profession. I can remember that.

But when I was young, there wasn't even the thought of people who would sabotage a cockpit - but today, I can't say that anymore. So, I'm sorry, but I don't like the idea that there is so much oppsition to this Captain's "cautiousness".

The rules are clear: no body has business here but the flight crew. At the moment you want to "break the rules", you are no longer a "passenger" - not in today's environment.

I stand behind any flight crew who discourages "poking around in the cockpit" by anyone that is not a part of the current crew.

It ain't safe anymore.
 
Before this becomes another knock-down, drag-out fight, I think it's best to remember that some captains are strictly by the book while others have a more relaxed cockpit. Nothing more, nothing less. No one is going to sway anyone's opinion on this issue, so why bother trying?
 
I fly quite often domestic and to Europe. I always look for an opportunity to look in and see the flight deck and talk to the pilots. Always on the ground of course. I approach the Captain very humbly and respectfully and ask if I can look in the cockpit and ask a few questions. After introducing myself as a pilot in a professional manner. 9 out of 10 times they are more then happy to have you visit! You can't approach them with the attitude that they are working for you and that it is your right to just step into there office. They are busy , tired , and if they have just landed , they are experiencing a rather large let down of adrenaline and probably are not in the mood for a tour. You must take this into consideration. After a flight is not the best time to approach them. In all my flying , I have never denied anyone to sit in , or look at the airplane I was flying. I have even on numerous occasion taken people up for free out of my own pocket. But , I do take the time to educate them on approaching and airplane and its pilot.

I talked my way into a Full Motion CRJ Sim 2 weeks ago. It was a Locked facility for a specific airline only! Because I approached them in a humble attitude , I was well received. I actually got to take off , fly , and land the CRJ in full motion! No red screen! And I have set myself up for more instruction time in the SIM because I approached them in the right manner.

Its all in the way you appraoch people! :D
 
Velocipede said:
For all you guys who like to play "big stud Airline pilot" by conducting public cockpit tours, ask yourself this...How easy would it be for someone with a little systems knowledge reach out and pull some critical circuit breakers while you're showing Junior the pretty lights. Then, you may fly the rest of the day with no active Engine Fire Warning system and you'd never even know it. And if you tell me you preflight the circuit breaker panel before every leg, I'll call you a liar to your face.

The general public has NO business in the cockpit inflight OR on the ground. Period.
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Easy there big fella. First off, I don't like role playing :) Second, your point is taken but certain situations require a bit of humility and honest fun. No one here is talking about folks coming up front during flight.

nosehair said:
It ain't safe anymore.
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Fair enough, however I think this is overboard. You can keep a watchful eye and good mind about someone. I just don't buy into the paranoia crap, if so terrorism has done the job. We lose.

WildCougar said:
Before this becomes another knock-down, drag-out fight, I think it's best to remember that some captains are strictly by the book while others have a more relaxed cockpit. Nothing more, nothing less. No one is going to sway anyone's opinion on this issue, so why bother trying?
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Point well taken, I am done....now. :)
 
Velocipede said:
For all you guys who like to play "big stud Airline pilot" by conducting public cockpit tours, ask yourself this...How easy would it be for someone with a little systems knowledge reach out and pull some critical circuit breakers while you're showing Junior the pretty lights. Then, you may fly the rest of the day with no active Engine Fire Warning system and you'd never even know it. And if you tell me you preflight the circuit breaker panel before every leg, I'll call you a liar to your face.

The general public has NO business in the cockpit inflight OR on the ground. Period.
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Velocipide, I'm usually in agreement with you on most things, but I think you're going a little too far on this one. It's your airplane, so it's certainly ok for you to deny access to the flightdeck if you wish, but I think it's possible to keep an eye on things to prevent the scenario you mention.
 
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