Some input about flight time

[8ball]

Hi guys,

At the moment, my major is Aviation Management. As you know, this means that the the flight training in this major will get me the private pilot and commercial certificates, with instrument and multi-engine ratings.

The airline that I wish to work for in the future requires the above mentioned certificates and ratings, and a minimum total of 320 hours total flight time, including 270 hours on single-engine aircraft and 50 hours on multi-engine aircraft.

Keeping all of that in mind....

I asked my instructor here at UND about how much hours I'll gain with the flight training that I'll go through in Aviation Management. He said that I'll gain about 250 hours. That will leave me with 70 hours to meet the minimum hours that the airline that I'm wishing to get recruited at requires.

So, should I:

a- Get those 70 hours by doing a double major, by doing both Aviation Management and Commercial Aviation.
b- Stick to Aviation Management and finish those 70 hours at any good flight school once I'm done with the flight training in my major.

I would appreciate your input in this matter.

 

[SFCC/UND]

Do you want cheapest or quickest?

 

[RWH1986]

I would just finish the aviation management with the hours you have. After that get your CFI at an FBO for cheaper and some flight dual given time...

 

[8ball]

Do you want cheapest or quickest?

Let me know what both the cheapest and quickest options are.

 

[8ball]

I would just finish the aviation management with the hours you have. After that get your CFI at an FBO for cheaper and some flight dual given time...

I'm leaning more towards this option.

 

[SFCC/UND]

That would be the cheapest way, depending on the weather it may be the longest.

 

[8ball]

Once I get done with my flight training in Aviation Management, I'm thinking of finishing up my flight hours in Southern California during summer breaks. I wonder if this is the best option.

That being said, I'd like to know what the quickest option is.

 

[Hubbs]

The quickest would be to find an FBO or flying club that has good availability and fly the cr@p out of their plane(s). Assuming you have the funds, you could build 70hrs in a month or less. How much multi time do you have now? Ari Ben Aviator have decent multi engine time building options. http://www.aribenaviator.com/100hr.html

 

[av8or91]

flight instructing for a few weeks.

 

[8ball]

The quickest would be to find an FBO or flying club that has good availability and fly the cr@p out of their plane(s). Assuming you have the funds, you could build 70hrs in a month or less. How much multi time do you have now? Ari Ben Aviator have decent multi engine time building options. http://www.aribenaviator.com/100hr.html

Thanks for the flight school suggestion. I'm currently starting 102, and I need to plan my degree plan while planning on how to get the hours for the airline that I wish to work for.

flight instructing for a few weeks.

I'll consider that as well.

 

[the_dmn8tr]

250 hours seems a bit high. I got my CMEL/CSEL-IA at the end of 325 with 180 hours.

 

[av8or91]

Which airline are you trying to work for? Once your done with the commercial course just take CFI. Apply for a job as an instructor and instruct for your last year. You should end up with plenty of time after that and enough money to afford a cheeseburger at mcdonalds.

 

[8ball]

250 hours seems a bit high. I got my CMEL/CSEL-IA at the end of 325 with 180 hours.

Yeah, I also think that 250 hours seems a bit high. 180 hours is more realistic.

Which airline are you trying to work for? Once your done with the commercial course just take CFI. Apply for a job as an instructor and instruct for your last year. You should end up with plenty of time after that and enough money to afford a cheeseburger at mcdonalds.

Saudi Arabian Airlines.

I'll consider the CFI option, though if I just pay for a block of flight time at any flight school I could probably get done with the required hours in a quicker way.

Also, with regards to food, I'm used to Long John Silver's.

 

[TXaviator]

250 hours seems a bit high. I got my CMEL/CSEL-IA at the end of 325 with 180 hours.

exactly. I walked out of UND after finishing the multi course with 194/25

and thats with about 30 hours of acro time that i bought for fun/excitement/whatever.

also, I think planning on what airline you 'want to work for' over 5 years from now is completely foolish.

just ask the guys who signed up for UND 4 years ago when the biz was booming ;-)

 

[8ball]

exactly. I walked out of UND after finishing the multi course with 194/25

and thats with about 30 hours of acro time that i bought for fun/excitement/whatever.

also, I think planning on what airline you 'want to work for' over 5 years from now is completely foolish.

just ask the guys who signed up for UND 4 years ago when the biz was booming ;-)

Well, it's not nice to label something as "completely foolish" without seeing the whole picture.

The airline that I'm planning to work for has a long history of not suddenly furloughing pilots due to the state of the airline industry. It's a government-owned airline which is subsidized by the government, so job security over there is pretty high. Also, in the long-term, I want to become a captain on wide-body aircraft, and at the moment, they're the only airline which operates wide-body aircraft in Saudi Arabia. Plus, they're based in my hometown, which is Jeddah.

I'm actually also putting other airlines as alternate options for employment, and that's what I'm putting into mind in terms of my career planning.

 

[av8or91]

Well, it's not nice to label something as "completely foolish" without seeing the whole picture.

The airline that I'm planning to work for has a long history of not suddenly furloughing pilots due to the state of the airline industry. It's a government-owned airline which is subsidized by the government, so job security over there is pretty high. Also, in the long-term, I want to become a captain on wide-body aircraft, and at the moment, they're the only airline which operates wide-body aircraft in Saudi Arabia. Plus, they're based in my hometown, which is Jeddah.

I'm actually also putting other airlines as alternate options for employment, and that's what I'm putting into mind in terms of my career planning.

I think I met you in the tutor lab once.... Were you the one looking for approach plates for your home airport?

 

[MrLeisure757]

I'm not a Commercial Aviation/Aviation Management major, but if you have a goal or a dream to work for a certain company, go for it and don't let anyone slow you down.

 

[8ball]

I think I met you in the tutor lab once.... Were you the one looking for approach plates for your home airport?

It probably was me.

I'm not a Commercial Aviation/Aviation Management major, but if you have a goal or a dream to work for a certain company, go for it and don't let anyone slow you down.

Thank you man. I've had my mind set on this airline for a long time and I'm sure of my choice.

 

[RWH1986]

I'm not a Commercial Aviation/Aviation Management major, but if you have a goal or a dream to work for a certain company, go for it and don't let anyone slow you down.

I agree with in the fact...you might get there right away and could have several career moves before you make it there just dont give up and roll with the punches.

 

[JaceTheAce]

also, I think planning on what airline you 'want to work for' over 5 years from now is completely foolish.

just ask the guys who signed up for UND 4 years ago when the biz was booming ;-)

Four years ago I was asking myself which CFI gig I'd want to start doing upon graduation! I had no idea I'd get caught up in the airline hiring so soon.