SkyWest and Commuter Clause

They don't, but I've heard if you leave yourself plenty of options, fess up when you can't make it, and don't do it too often, they are pretty chill about it... No idea if that's true, but I would say use common sense.
 
They don't have any clauses at all because they don't have any union and therefore no contract. You will have to throw yourselves on their mercy, so as long as they don't want to get rid of you for another reason you'll probably be fine.

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Don't have one, don't need one. I've commuted for nearly 6 of my 7 years here and it's never been an issue. Now that I'm on SAPA I've also never heard of a single legitimate issue with a pilot not making a commute and facing disciplinary action. SkyW isn't perfect, but this is not a reason to not consider applying IMO. Or being a hater for that matter :)
 
bike21 said:
Don't have one, don't need one. I've commuted for nearly 6 of my 7 years here and it's never been an issue. Now that I'm on SAPA I've also never heard of a single legitimate issue with a pilot not making a commute and facing disciplinary action. SkyW isn't perfect, but this is not a reason to not consider applying IMO. Or being a hater for that matter :)
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Just curious, how many flights do you leave to get to work and how early before your show do you plan to be at work?
 
aevfo said:
Just curious, how many flights do you leave to get to work and how early before your show do you plan to be at work?
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It all depends to be honest. Usually a minimum three flights is the best practice. Too many factors though to give an easy answer.

Flight loads, how many jumpseats, frequency, city pair, report times all come into play.

No longer have to worry about it now though :)

Which cities might you be commuting to/from?
 
bike21 said:
It all depends to be honest. Usually a minimum three flights is the best practice. Too many factors though to give an easy answer.

Flight loads, how many jumpseats, frequency, city pair, report times all come into play.

No longer have to worry about it now though :)

Which cities might you be commuting to/from?
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I commute to ATL, just wondering how many flights you left yourself w/o a commuter clause. Glad you're based where you live. I wish we at ASA could get a couple more bases like you guys have.
 
aevfo said:
I commute to ATL, just wondering how many flights you left yourself w/o a commuter clause. Glad you're based where you live. I wish we at ASA could get a couple more bases like you guys have.
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We do, we just haven't manned up enough to push One List yet.
 
aevfo said:
I commute to ATL, just wondering how many flights you left yourself w/o a commuter clause. Glad you're based where you live. I wish we at ASA could get a couple more bases like you guys have.
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Ah gotcha. As 'train says. One list!

Sometimes I'd only leave one option, it depended on my current state of burnout ;)
 
bike21 said:
It all depends to be honest. Usually a minimum three flights is the best practice. Too many factors though to give an easy answer.
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My commuter policy (ALPA carrier) requires two flights; two is what you get. Consult your own contract. Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited.

Note, my commuter policy also says that the Chief Pilot may waive documentation if I demonstrated a good faith effort to get to work. If you're a colossal frak-up, then this is a big deal. If you are not a frak-up, this is PROBABLY not a big deal unless it happens more than a certain number of times a year.
 
So by your logic a commuter policy enables a 'frak-up' to continually not show up to work on time?

How hard is it to report to work? I've commuted to reserve more than 80% of my career on one of the toughest city pairs, been the most burned out you could imagine, missed a few commutes along the way and still have a job.

I won't discount the usefulness of a commuter policy but from first hand experience it isn't a make or break deal.
 
bike21 said:
So by your logic a commuter policy enables a 'frak-up' to continually not show up to work on time?

How hard is it to report to work? I've commuted to reserve more than 80% of my career on one of the toughest city pairs, been the most burned out you could imagine, missed a few commutes along the way and still have a job.

I won't discount the usefulness of a commuter policy but from first hand experience it isn't a make or break deal.
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Read more carefully...with respect to keeping your job, it's a lot easier for a chief pilot to merely look at you and say "okay!" with nothing else in your file. If he knows you by name and face at a large base, you might be fried.

The truth of the matter is, if the company has a legitimate gripe against you, they'll find a way to can you, union or not.

As I'm sure you're well aware, reserve pilots are around to cover both known open time and unknown trips that come up...like when you can't make your commute. It is Not A Big Deal as long as you make an honest effort to show up.

I bust my ass to commute to reserve too, by the way. It's nice to know that when the defecation hits the oscillation I'm covered, is my point. Stuff happens.


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