Sign off a student for another airport

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empire

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A student called today looking for a sign-off to fly solo in and out of my local airport. He has his own plane, based 20 miles away, and his regular instructor is based another 60 or so miles away. He claims to be proficient, with 100+ hours under his belt, and has a solo endorsement (but not for my local airport)...just taking his time getting his private check ride (although he says he's within a few hours of finishing). Assuming he is proficient (after I fly with him, of course), is there any problem giving him an endorsement for multiple flights into my local airport, considering that his solo is authorized by another instructor?

FYI...he lives near this airport (and would rather bring his plane here...closer), AND, his regular instructor is unavailable this week.
 
I think you would have to endorse his medical and give him the 90-day solo endorsement as well. but I'm not sure i never had that one come up before.
 
I'm not a CFI but this is my guess as to the requirements -
Other than your student have the current 90 day endorsement he would also need this endorsement (taken from 61-65e), reference the 61.93(b)

8. Repeated solo cross-country flights not more than 50 nm from the point of departure:
section 61.93(b)(2).
I certify that (First name, MI, Last name) has received the required training in both directions
between and at both (airport names). I have determined that he/she is proficient of
section 61.93(b)(2) to conduct repeated solo cross-country flights over that route, subject to the
following conditions: (List any applicable conditions or limitations.)
/s/ [date] J. J. Jones 987654321CFI Exp. 12-31-05
 
Let me see if I have this right.

You answered the phone, and on the other end was a total stranger who wanted you to sign him off for solo flight? If you're comfortable with the legal position that would put you in, go right ahead- after doing the requisite training with him. I'd also call and have a chat with his CFI first.
 
Chief Captain said:
Let me see if I have this right.

You answered the phone, and on the other end was a total stranger who wanted you to sign him off for solo flight? If you're comfortable with the legal position that would put you in, go right ahead- after doing the requisite training with him. I'd also call and have a chat with his CFI first.
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That pretty much sums up the thoughts I had as I read the question.

From the legal standpoint, should you choose to do so, you do not need to sign his medical, you do not need to sign his student pilot certificate, you do need to ensure his student pilot certificate is endorsed for both solo and cross-country in an airplane, you do need to ensure he has a current solo endorsement in his log book, and then you need to ensure you comply with the references "citrus" listed earlier in this thread.
 
Well, after the SECOND phone call...it was decided that I wasn't continuing along this path.
This guy was suffering from some sloppy/erroneous/inadequate prior endorsements. As a result, I would have to re-solo him....and of course spend all the time I thought necessary to comply with those requirements.

Truthfully, I'm not against taking on a student that has worked with someone else almost to completion. In fact, I think some students should fly with a couple/few different instructors...get some different viewpoints, pointers, etc. Mind you, I'm not recommending the student hopscotch through a bunch of teachers....just fly with a couple others once in a while for a different perspective.
 
There's a reason why he is a 100 hr student. Students like this always claim they are "just a few hours away" from their checkrides.

Looks like you made a good decision, but that doesn't mean you cant work with him and get whipped into shape for the checkride. Just makes sure he understands that is what your role as his CFI will be. Some of these 100 hour students are just looking for a CFI's ticket to fly on. Dont be that CFI, make them get their own!
 
cguerrant said:
I can't understand why a 100 hr student has no license yet under any circumstance.
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Let me tell you about my student who still considered "straight and level" a maneuver after 20hrs...

...or perhaps I should tell you the one who couldn't find North on the heading indicator...
 
cguerrant said:
I can't understand why a 100 hr student has no license yet under any circumstance.
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Maybe the guy has a life and isn't made of money.
I had 70 hrs before I got my private. I also worked two jobs, was a full time student, a girlfriend and an active social life. Easy to understand that I sometimes went weeks between lessons.
Kinda funny really, I chose to fly and lost most of those things that I had.
 
I had a 100+ hour student who LOVED to fly. Loved it to death. Problem was he was a business owner and lived on his cellphone, had no attention span, and had no book smarts. I would spend hours with him teaching him basics only to find he forgot everything the next day. I got beaucoup flight time off him, though- and he loved every minute of it.
 
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