SecState Tillerson meets with JetBlue, Fedex, Atlas on Open Skies

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"Just do the math": That was essentially the message Tillerson heard from U.S. Travel, JetBlue, Fedex and Atlas Air on the job creation inherent in Open Skies agreements with Gulf carriers. It’s really tough to predict what action the Trump administration might take on this issue.
— Dennis Schaal


The major U.S. airlines that allege unfair competition by Persian Gulf rivals can’t show that new flight routes are costing U.S. jobs, allies of the Middle Eastern carriers told Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

Opening discussions with the governments of the United Arab Emirates and Qatar over trade claims could hurt travel and tourism and encourage other countries to take actions against the U.S. “with some significant unintended consequences,” Bill Flynn, chief executive officer of freight company Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings Inc., said in an interview.

Flynn was among several corporate executives who met with Tillerson in Washington for about a half hour Tuesday in support of maintaining the existing aviation agreements with the Gulf nations.. He was joined by FedEx Corp. President David Bronczek and JetBlue Airways Corp. Chief Executive Officer Robin Hayes, which are are part of the U.S. Airlines for Open Skies, a coalition that has lobbied to preserve the U.A.E. and Qatar deals.

The meeting stoked a two-year-old fight over the U.S. expansion of Emirates, Etihad Airways PJSC and Qatar Airways Ltd. The U.A.E. and Qatari governments enabled the carriers’ growth by providing them with $50 billion in subsidies to buy new jets and cover money-losing routes, according to Delta Air Lines Inc., United Continental Holdings Inc. and American Airlines Group Inc.

The three biggest U.S. carriers are lobbying the Trump administration to consult with the Gulf nations over alleged violations of the “Open Skies” agreements that govern flights among the countries.

JOB CREATOR

Also attending the State Department meeting were U.S. Travel Association CEO Roger Dow and Airports Council International – North America CEO Kevin Burke. The executives told Tillerson that flights by Emirates, Etihad and Qatar create jobs in the U.S, instead of threatening them, according to a statement from the U.S. Travel Association. They also brought up Boeing Co.’s sale of jets to the Gulf airlines and new opportunities for tourism,

Rather than lobbying the Trump administration and Congress to rework aviation agreements, Delta, United and American should file a complaint under the International Air Transportation Fair Competitive Practices Act, a law allowing the Department of Transportation to investigate unfair competition by airlines, U.S. Travel said.

A spokeswoman for a group representing Delta, United and American said the airlines have an “unqualified right” to ask the government to enter into discussions over Open Skies disputes. Nothing requires them to file a formal complaint under the IATFCPA, said Jill Zuckman of the Partnership for Open & Fair Skies.

A FICTION’

“The idea to the contrary is a fiction that the Gulf carriers and their allies have invented because it suits their objective of throwing a wrench in the process and avoiding the U.S. government taking action,” Zuckman said.

The Gulf carriers are seeking to “take over international flying” by undercutting U.S. aviation, she said.

“Our jobs are on the chopping block, which is why we are asking the administration to enforce our international agreements with the UAE and Qatar and stop the harm from escalating any further,” Zuckman said.

The secretary of state didn’t indicate when the Trump administration might take action on the dispute, and “we didn’t expect him to,” Flynn said. Tillerson expects to meet with representatives of the legacy U.S. airlines as soon as their schedules permit, and the agency is considering its next steps, a State Department official said.


https://skift.com/2017/08/01/u-s-tr...lerson-to-back-open-skies-with-gulf-carriers/
 
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I was talking with a Belgian who said he was upset with Fedex and UPS and American pilots dominance in the air freight industry. I never looked into it much, but it made me wonder how they've benefited internationally from these agreements.
 
One of the arguments by the European carriers is that 5th freedom rights. Fifth Freedom rights are defined as follows: Fifth freedom. The fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country. It is the right to carry passengers (and cargo) from one's own country to a second country, and from that country to a third country (and so on).

What this means is that within the European Union, Fed Ex and UPS can hub and consolidate freight in the EU and then fly to the US. This same act in the US would be considered cabotage. Cabotage is the restriction of the operation of sea, air, or other transport services within or into a particular country to that country's own transport services.

So US airlines can operate between EU states without it being cabotage, but EU carriers cannot operate in the US in that manner. It is a sore spot in the air treaty world.
 
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