RVR and approach plates.

[Nightflight]

So I can (or at least I thought) use both types of approach plates pretty seemlessly.

But then this came up. I'll just use KJAX as an example. On the back of the airport diagram page 10-9A, for takeoff minimums it shows adequate vis as 1600 rvr.

It also shows that you can get away with the RVR as low as 500 if all three components are working.

Now my question is this, where can I find that information on the government charts?

And one other question, I know 91 you can do 0-0, say you were 135 flying a Pilatus, does this mean you could take off with 500 RVR(assuming you had a takeoff alternate). I think it probably depends on the Ops Specs.

Cheers to any good information. :beer:

 

[minitour]

Now my question is this, where can I find that information on the government charts?

Oh boy. I think you need to start in the front...or maybe back...and look at the takeoff minimums. IIRC, that's where you start.

And one other question, I know 91 you can do 0-0, say you were 135 flying a Pilatus, does this mean you could take off with 500 RVR(assuming you had a takeoff alternate). I think it probably depends on the Ops Specs.

Depends on the Op Specs for sure.

Single pilot? Probably not. Normally you're limited to Cat I landing minimums for single pilot 135. There are exceptions to that.

Two pilots? Depends. If you've got approval and have been trained, then sure.

-mini

 

[Nightflight]

Yea I have looked all over....nothing. My guess is its because no 121/135 carrier with the capabilities to do take off minimums that low, actually uses those plates. So why put it in there.

But yea, I have searched and that is my best uneducated guess. If you are doing things like that, the company probably can chip in for the better approach plates.

 

[mshunter]

Oh boy. I think you need to start in the front...or maybe back...and look at the takeoff minimums. IIRC, that's where you start.


-mini

Why are NOS/NACO charts such POS's! Damn I hate them.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Yea I have looked all over....nothing. My guess is its because no 121/135 carrier with the capabilities to do take off minimums that low, actually uses those plates. So why put it in there.

But yea, I have searched and that is my best uneducated guess. If you are doing things like that, the company probably can chip in for the better approach plates.

How low are you thinking?

We're approved for 6/6/6 ... ie we need RVRT RVRM and RVRR of those values, and the appropriate runway lights, to takeoff at a minimum 600 RVR...

 

[dasleben]

So I can (or at least I thought) use both types of approach plates pretty seemlessly.

But then this came up. I'll just use KJAX as an example. On the back of the airport diagram page 10-9A, for takeoff minimums it shows adequate vis as 1600 rvr.

It also shows that you can get away with the RVR as low as 500 if all three components are working.

Now my question is this, where can I find that information on the government charts?

And one other question, I know 91 you can do 0-0, say you were 135 flying a Pilatus, does this mean you could take off with 500 RVR(assuming you had a takeoff alternate). I think it probably depends on the Ops Specs.

Cheers to any good information. :beer:

This really is an Ops Spec question, like mini said. Depends on the type of operation you're doing.

Why are NOS/NACO charts such POS's! Damn I hate them.

Don't hate! I've been using NACO charts for the past year and a half, and haven't killed anyone yet.