RUMINT - UAL to charge ID-90s for offline Jumpseaters

C150J

C150J

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Anyone hear more about this? I'm getting calls from all angles. Details are all similar: the physical JS is free, but if occupied you're going to ante up an ID90 to sit in the back if you're not an affiliate.

Anyone hear similar? Could be total BS.
 
So essentially they are doing away with unlimited jumpseats, correct? You have the free seats up front, after that, you are a regular non-rev.


I love this whole "where can I find more revenue streams, without regard to pissing whoever I want off" tactic that all the airlines seem to be going after.
 
UAL charging for a union negotiated benefit whose initial intention was to increase safety by allowing pilots to observe pilots.

Sucky.
 
It's not just doing away with unlimited jumpseaters- its charging people who don't sit in it. One jumpseater? 3 open in the back? You must take the available seat in the back and you better have your pass ready for collection by the gate agent.

It wasn't my understanding that this would affect all offline jumpseaters (although it very well could, I'm not in the know), just those who have the ability to pay your $200 annual pass activation charges and choose not to.
 
Sorry United guys, if you let your management see this through, I don't see why we'll be able to get more than 1 of you on our airplane in the future.
 
This is pretty much what Delta just did to us. Don't sit up front on a flight? You gotta pay the $50 Delta fee now as of June 23rd. If your hire date was June 24th and you need to get to work on the 23rd? You're paying $100 since it's due on your anniversary date. I know they're doing it to all the DCI regionals, but it's still crappy to essentially charge for jumpseat privileges. If I'm non-reving, cool. I understand paying the fee, but if I walk up, fill out a JS form, get a seat in the back and the gate agent says "That'll be $50," that's BS.

If United starts to do this, expect to see their reciprocal jumpseat agreements start to dry up.
 
All the fighting to make this profession is better really seems to be working....
 
kellwolf said:
If United starts to do this, expect to see their reciprocal jumpseat agreements start to dry up.
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Yup, guys start getting denied UAL jumpseats -> UAL pilots get denied jumpseats -> less UAL flights go out on time.

Nice job, management.


The worst part about it is for UAX regional carriers, the pilots now have to pay a fee to ride on their own airplanes. Nice.
 
As much as some things suck in Airways country, the non rev benefits are some of the best in the industry for Mainline, the WOs AND the contract carriers.
 
Yep I am anxiously awaiting a reply from the ual jumpseat commitee chairperson. I know we have a lot of guys that use them and it would be a shame for them not to be able to. Way to go guys make it harder for everyone! Safety is clearly not their top priority!
 
The jumpseat wars will begin - I can guarantee it. The poor UAL guys will be left out in the cold - this really sucks. This is gonna have a huge impact on their ability to commute... and my ability to commute if I need to hop on UAL.
 
If it happens, it will be temporary. As soon as UAL has to cancel flights because their pilots couldn't make it to work, it will change. Pilots need the jumpseat, but so do the airlines.
 
kellwolf said:
This is pretty much what Delta just did to us. Don't sit up front on a flight? You gotta pay the $50 Delta fee now as of June 23rd. If your hire date was June 24th and you need to get to work on the 23rd? You're paying $100 since it's due on your anniversary date. I know they're doing it to all the DCI regionals, but it's still crappy to essentially charge for jumpseat privileges. If I'm non-reving, cool. I understand paying the fee, but if I walk up, fill out a JS form, get a seat in the back and the gate agent says "That'll be $50," that's BS.

If United starts to do this, expect to see their reciprocal jumpseat agreements start to dry up.
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If our Anniversary date was before we don't pay till next year. XJ originally had it the way you described concluded they were wrong.
 
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