Reporting an Employer to ICE?

jhugz

jhugz

Well-Known Member
So as many of you may know I was fired w/ out cause from my last job. Mostly it was due to me not working for free and standing up for myself when I was pushed to sign stuff off I didn't want to. Anywhoo I got to thinking last night about an incredibly ugly case of how this company tries to cut all corners and it aggravated me all through my shift.

The company brings in people from out of country on a student visa and has them work at the school as CFI's. Obviously since it is a student visa they are not eligible to be working in the US. So the company pays them under the table just for room and board. I was really upset about this when I was working there but just let it go because if I reported them they would know it was me and then terminate me.

Anywhoo am I being just in reporting this to the ICE (immigration and customs enforcement) or is this something I'm doing just in spite of my firing? I'm still p'ed off and want payback but this is so bad for the industry. Absolutely disgusting...

Opinions...
 
Taking everything you have said at face value, the employer does seem to be wrong. I would say it is worth reporting if everything is as you state.

My question (which you mentioned) is why was it ok when they were employing you, but now that they are not, you are looking at reporting it?

That being said I guess I would report it.
 
The question I'm asking myself is if I left on good terms would I still report them? IDK...

I don't want this to be about revenge, mostly just doing the right thing.
 
I personally believe in right and wrong - hiring illegal immigrants to work is wrong and therefore should be reported. I wouldn't make a big fuss about it just contact the appropriate agencies and then move on. These are jobs our country needs at the end of the day.
 
jhugz said:
The question I'm asking myself is if I left on good terms would I still report them? IDK...

I don't want this to be about revenge, mostly just doing the right thing.
Click to expand...


I would say that by nature of the fact that you did not report it while working there, you thought it was 'OK'. Now that they have fired you, you are at least 'thinking' about reporting it.

For me, that answers your question about whether or not it is for 'revenge'.
 
JEP said:
I would say that by nature of the fact that you did not report it while working there, you thought it was 'OK'. Now that they have fired you, you are at least 'thinking' about reporting it.
Click to expand...

Nah, I didn't report when working there for fear of termination.
 
jhugz said:
So as many of you may know I was fired w/ out cause from my last job. Mostly it was due to me not working for free and standing up for myself when I was pushed to sign stuff off I didn't want to. Anywhoo I got to thinking last night about an incredibly ugly case of how this company tries to cut all corners and it aggravated me all through my shift.

The company brings in people from out of country on a student visa and has them work at the school as CFI's. Obviously since it is a student visa they are not eligible to be working in the US. So the company pays them under the table just for room and board. I was really upset about this when I was working there but just let it go because if I reported them they would know it was me and then terminate me.

Anywhoo am I being just in reporting this to the ICE (immigration and customs enforcement) or is this something I'm doing just in spite of my firing? I'm still p'ed off and want payback but this is so bad for the industry. Absolutely disgusting...

Opinions...
Click to expand...

You are still pissed about being fired but wrong is wrong. If you think it is a violation of the law then report it and let the authorities figure it out. It has nothing to do with emotions.
 
Again....

jhugz said:
Nah, I didn't report when working there for fear of termination.
Click to expand...


Regardless of the reason, you didn't report it. Not trying to bag on you, but if you thought it was 'wrong enough', you would have reported it....
 
JEP said:
Not trying to bag on you...
Click to expand...

Not at all man...Just trying to play this out before hand.

The way I'm justifying this is that it isn't something like pilot pushing, which to some extent did happen. Where it could directly affect my well being or my career. That's why I wasn't willing to lose my job over it at the time.

I see where you are going though and I could be totally off base on this one. Which is why I'm throwing this out to others opinion.
 
It appears to me that the PRIMARY reason that you're considering reporting it now is that they fired you. The right/wrong aspect is secondary at best. You let it go then... just keep letting it go. My 2¢.
 
My first reaction is to say to report them.

Are these CFI jobs that would otherwise be held by US citizens, or legal residents\visitors? If so, then I would most definitely report it. I wouldn't waste a lot of time trying to be vengeful, but I would report it.
 
jhugz said:
So as many of you may know I was fired w/ out cause from my last job. Mostly it was due to me not working for free and standing up for myself when I was pushed to sign stuff off I didn't want to. Anywhoo I got to thinking last night about an incredibly ugly case of how this company tries to cut all corners and it aggravated me all through my shift.

The company brings in people from out of country on a student visa and has them work at the school as CFI's. Obviously since it is a student visa they are not eligible to be working in the US. So the company pays them under the table just for room and board. I was really upset about this when I was working there but just let it go because if I reported them they would know it was me and then terminate me.

Anywhoo am I being just in reporting this to the ICE (immigration and customs enforcement) or is this something I'm doing just in spite of my firing? I'm still p'ed off and want payback but this is so bad for the industry. Absolutely disgusting...

Opinions...
Click to expand...

It is not necesarily obvious that a student visa makes a foreigner ineligible to work in the U.S. There are different types of student Visa's that a foreign student can have and some have provisions for working at the Visa sponsors place such as a flight school. You might want to sure a violation has been made before jumping to conclusions.
 
touch-n-go said:
It is not necesarily obvious that a student visa makes a foreigner ineligible to work in the U.S. There are different types of student Visa's that a foreign student can have and some have provisions for working at the Visa sponsors place such as a flight school. You might want to sure a violation has been made before jumping to conclusions.
Click to expand...

Then why is there a need to pay them under the table? This is straight from the horses mouth btw...

and if I'm wrong then it's a minor inconvenience, if I'm right well then you know the rest of the story...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top