Regional FO's to majors
- Thread starter Blackhawk
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thevideographer
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Good to know since our upgrade time is 4ish years.
CFIscare
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Is that suppose to be long?
Screaming_Emu
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That's what she said
CFIscare
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Not sure there is a question here? I was a RJ FO who was hired a few years ago into a LCC/Major without any internal connections / recommendations, and certainly not the child of a chief pilot.
Blackhawk
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Not a question. Just a comment that while TPIC is important it is not the be all, end all it use to be.
mastermags
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Me as well.
Cherokee_Cruiser
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It's getting to be more true (truer?) as time goes on.
RRPower
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This has all but gone away with this NWO of HR driven hiring. I know...I was one. Still crickets even with every favor I could call in. At the end of the day, you get the "points" you get a call. If you don't then you won't. I, along with thousands of others are perplexed as to how (in some cases) FO's with zero internals and from all appearances just a Joe blow that put his/her application in can gain enough points to be called by Delta/United but LCA's with sim instructor time, master's degrees, undergrad from top tier aviation university, and a plethora of volunteer time can still be left scratching their head.
At the end of the day, it is a messed up system. It is a crap shoot. No one knows how to stand out to get a call and there is no way to quantify it when you have (on paper) subpar applicants getting calls over extremely well qualified applicants. I'm over even trying to figure it out. I have come up with a fair date that will allow the hiring boom to be well established and if I have been unable to get a call, then I will leave the industry and go try my hand at something I can better plan on advancement in.
mastermags
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At the end of the day, you never know how poorly someone's app may be together or what kind of skeletons someone has in their closet that they don't talk about. I've looked over a lot of applications.
From what I've seen of so many companies, the ones I've encountered in aviation and the those of friends in various industries you'd be surprised how inept HR departments can be. There's no reason to get stressed out about it and start getting insecure about yourself or your accomplishments.
SrFnFly227
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ian
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It's an average for a reason...many have less many have more. I was hired with about half the pic listed for aug
SrFnFly227
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But that means that you still had 1500-2000 total PIC. A lot of FOs out there have about 150 hours of PIC and that is all with a flight instructor sitting next to them. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but I think a person's odds of getting a look are still much higher if he or she has PIC.
It's also worth noting that the hiring picture I posted says PIC, not Turbine PIC. I am assuming it is written that way for a reason and it should definitely give hope to people who built hours somewhere before getting hired at a Regional.
Eagle421flyer
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I (pretty much) agree. I have seen networking work, but more often that not these days it is a crap shoot. My good friend in new hire class at XJT wanted/wants to go to UAL. He has no dui/violations/training issues, Masters, did an internship at UAL (way back in the day) current internal rec and retired UAL rec, went to a job fair, and he has heard nothing. It's maddening for him to see younger guys with less "points" hired.
On the flip side I have seen networking work well, same friend (probably correctly) decided that if UAL wasn't going to call him he wanted to come to spirit. I wrote him a letter, walked his stuff in and he will be off first year pay here in a few months.