Refresher before ATP checkride

Whitebread

Whitebread

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I haven't flown General Aviation aircraft in 6 years and I would like to get my ATP. I think I am going to do an hour or so in a Multi- SIM and then a flight or two in an Aztec with an instructor. Think that should do it? I have been out of the sky for a little over a year now.
 
It depends on which program you're signing up for. No matter what program, I definitely recommend getting IFR proficient before coming into the program. As far as the multi stuff- if you can deal with an engine failure 500' on takeoff, and land the airplane on the 1000' markers, you'll probably be fine.
Good luck! any questions you can PM
 
I am planning on going to see an examiner up in Maine. Ex-B52 pilot, you fly his Seneca and I hear he is pretty fair to airline guys.
 
syntrikz said:
It depends on which program you're signing up for. No matter what program, I definitely recommend getting IFR proficient before coming into the program. As far as the multi stuff- if you can deal with an engine failure 500' on takeoff, and land the airplane on the 1000' markers, you'll probably be fine.
Good luck! any questions you can PM
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Seconded. It's more important to be instrument proficient (not merely current). Get good and familiar with the area and approaches where you'll be training.
 
Whitebread said:
I am planning on going to see an examiner up in Maine. Ex-B52 pilot, you fly his Seneca and I hear he is pretty fair to airline guys.
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I wish you much luck on your checkride! I also wanted to point out that this section is for the school www.allatps.com and not just getting your ATP. ATP's the school has a very good ATP program worth checking into as well! :beer:
 
Whitebread said:
I haven't flown General Aviation aircraft in 6 years and I would like to get my ATP. I think I am going to do an hour or so in a Multi- SIM and then a flight or two in an Aztec with an instructor. Think that should do it? I have been out of the sky for a little over a year now.
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I did my ATP in a Seneca last year, and I hadn't touched a GA plane in a few years and only flown glass cockpit. I spent about 5 hours in an FTD getting used to flying steam gauges again, flying approaches, maneuvers, etc. Then I did about 2-2.5 hrs in the actual plane doing the ATP maneuvers and flying approaches and I was good to go.
 
CRJDriver said:
I did my ATP in a Seneca last year, and I hadn't touched a GA plane in a few years and only flown glass cockpit. I spent about 5 hours in an FTD getting used to flying steam gauges again, flying approaches, maneuvers, etc. Then I did about 2-2.5 hrs in the actual plane doing the ATP maneuvers and flying approaches and I was good to go.
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Where did you end up doing yours?

I am aware of ALL ATP's program, but this is cheaper and a little quicker. A one day gig. Just have to show up with the written and like you mentioned, be instrument current.
 
Instrument current and proficient are two different worlds. BE PROFICIENT!! Its an ATP license which means you're qualified to be captain and instruct the FO. Be prepared. The CFI does not need to endorse you to take the ride, understand its your call and not theirs. I don't mind brushing up on regs and what not but if I have to give instrument 101 for an Atp applicant, its just unacceptable for the level of experience and knowledge an atp ride requires and for a two day program forget it.
 
There will be no teaching instrument 101 to me. I am a CFI-I/MEI and I have flown as an FO for a regional airline for the past 5 years. The knowledge is there, it's just been a while since I have flown anything other than a glass cockpit and I will be doing the ride with steam gauges. This is why I am thing about a SIM or two to get my scan back and then one flight of dual with an MEI.

As a professional my instrument currency is proficient and definitely within PTS.
 
There ya go! You will do just fine! Brush up, get comfortable with the scan again and pass with flying colors. An ATP is nothing more than an instrument ride set to a higher standard, and better PIC judgement. Good luck to ya!
 
nocturnalaviator said:
There ya go! You will do just fine! Brush up, get comfortable with the scan again and pass with flying colors. An ATP is nothing more than an instrument ride set to a higher standard, and better PIC judgement. Good luck to ya!
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Thanks! I may be running into a scheduling issue with this examiner now. Has anyone ever used All ATP's in Bowling Green, KY? Or heard anything about their 10 hour program?
 
Who do you fly for Whitebread?

If you can find a flight school with a Level III FTD and want to save some cash, you can do quite bit of the checkride in the FTD. Check the table in the PTS what all can be accomplished in the FTD. I did part of my ride and most of the approaches in an FTD. I don't have the PTS in front of me, but I think the only maneuvers that have to be demonstrated in the actual plane are the single-engine approach to land and a circling approach. My examiner still had me do a few other things in the plane, but he let me do most of the approaches in the FTD.

You can obviously go to AllATPs and knock out the ATP ride there, and I guess there is some DPE up in Maine that can knock out an ATP pretty quick, but I don't have the info on him.

I have also heard good things about Accessible Aviation in Columbus, MS. Similar program to AllATPs but housing and examiner fee is included in their price. They use a glass panel Seneca, which makes the transition for airline guys easier.

http://www.accessibleaviation.com/airlinetransportpilot.htm
 
Whitebread said:
Thanks! I may be running into a scheduling issue with this examiner now. Has anyone ever used All ATP's in Bowling Green, KY? Or heard anything about their 10 hour program?
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The DE is Bowling Green is a fantastic guy and very fair. Plus he will probably buy you lunch after the ride.
 
I used to instruct in BWG. Dave is a great guy! Facilities are clean, people are polite, and the area is great for training. I liked instructing there.
 
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