Recalls at Eagle.

zmiller4 said:
It's *awesome* that you guys are getting some of the furloughs back.



I'd be a little cautious making that prediction, though, and consider the number of non-TWA folks still on furlough, how many recalls are planned at AA, and the number of Eagle captains that would actually take a class there. 22 airplanes will definitely help, but if they're doing flying that was being done by MD80's it will limit the possibilities for flow-throughs.
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The arbitration said that Eagle pilots with numbers should have been included in classes that already went, i.e., there could be a few guys that flow already, etc.

I know, I know, things aren't as rosy as they might first seem.. but do let's be optimistic for a moment. Eagle upgrade time was rapidly sliding towards 10 years.
 
kaktus965 said:
I heard the first class was EMB only, how many of you guys are going ATR? I'm pretty far down the recall list and I'm curious what I'm gonna end up in.
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Posted on Jetnet 4 slots for Nov 9th and 8 slots on Nov 23th are ATR. No other slots have been posted yet. I hope your right because the with the EMB I can quick qual and be back on the line in no time.
 
Firebird2XC said:
The arbitration said that Eagle pilots with numbers should have been included in classes that already went, i.e., there could be a few guys that flow already, etc.

I know, I know, things aren't as rosy as they might first seem.. but do let's be optimistic for a moment. Eagle upgrade time was rapidly sliding towards 10 years.
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What classes at AA? I didn't think they'd hired/flowthroughed since prior to 2001?

AA wasn't even on my radar since I didn't think I'd be at a regional that long. Now that it's looking like it's gonna be 2012 before I get out of here anyway, AA might actually be the place to be with mass retirements due to their aged seniority list.
 
kellwolf said:
What classes at AA? I didn't think they'd hired/flowthroughed since prior to 2001?

AA wasn't even on my radar since I didn't think I'd be at a regional that long. Now that it's looking like it's gonna be 2012 before I get out of here anyway, AA might actually be the place to be with mass retirements due to their aged seniority list.
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There were recall classes at AA in 2007 and 2008. I flew with a flowback in spring 2008 that was on his last trip before recall to AA.

The arbitration involved here basically says that because of how AA numbers were awarded to Eagle pilots and TWA staplees that some of the Eagle pilots should have already been called to AA.

The remedy for the arbitration has been left to the companies and unions involved, but ultimately it says that Eagle pilots either need to be on board and actively employed at AA or duly compensated.

Assuming that it means Eagle pilots start class for the MD-80, it could mean as few as a handful or as many as a couple of dozen Eagle captains flow through, which means an equivalent number of Eagle FOs finally see the left seat.
 
Gonzo: I already told you, but WELCOME BACK, bro!!!

Awesome news going on at Eagle right now. Small strides towards what, hopefully, will lead to bigger moves!!

Stay tuned!
 
kellwolf said:
What classes at AA? I didn't think they'd hired/flowthroughed since prior to 2001?
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I believe this involves 154 pilots here with AA#'s..

From an EGLMEC email:

Fellow American Eagle pilots:

Today, we received Arbitrator Nicolau’s award in the Letter 3 arbitration over whether or not American Eagle pilots who hold American Airlines’ pilot seniority numbers should have gone to AA training classes when the TWA pilots, classified by Arbitrator LaRocco as ‘new hires’ were being recalled from furlough.

Arbitrator Nicolau ruled entirely in ALPA and Eagle’s favor stating, “American Eagle pilots who hold American Airline seniority numbers were entitled to attend AA training classes beginning in June 2007.”

This is a very significant ruling as it vindicates ALPA’s position that AA pilot seniority numbers held by Eagle pilots are not of less value than those held by TWA pilots or any other AA pilot. Arbitrator Bloch also upheld this position when he ruled that AA pilot seniority numbers held by Eagle pilots do not expire simply because those pilots had not yet flowed to American Airlines at the time of Letter 3’s expiration.

We know this fight has taken years and your MEC has methodically explored every aspect of this case in order to be victorious on a dispute in which the outcome would so dramatically affect every single Eagle pilot.

As is often the case, the Arbitrator has remanded the remedy to the parties. In other words, the parties have a period of time to meet and discuss how to remedy American management’s failure to transfer Eagle pilots to AA at the time mandated by Letter 3. We will begin those discussions immediately, but anticipate that the discussions may take us through the end of the year.

We are very grateful for every Eagle pilot who has supported the MEC during this very challenging case. We will keep you abreast as discussions on remedy unfold. In the interim, we are posting the Arbitrator’s decision on the ALPA-Eagle website.
 
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