questions...need some explainations

[adreamer]

Good evening:

I was reading along JEP's instrument flying textbook. Few questions came up. I hope someone can explain this to me.

On the approach plate - plain view, which side inbound / final approach is protected? How do you know from just reading the plate.

About VOR(on field) approach, VOR is IAF, right? After fly over VOR and turn outbound, which way you turn?

Many thanks in advance.

adreamer

 

[jrh]

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On the approach plate - plain view, which side inbound / final approach is protected? How do you know from just reading the plate.

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I'm not 100% clear on what your question is, but I would say the side of the procedure turn is the protected side. Look for the procedure turn symbol and look at which direction it points.

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About VOR(on field) approach, VOR is IAF, right? After fly over VOR and turn outbound, which way you turn?

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Just because a VOR is on a field does not necessarily mean it will be an IAF for a VOR approach. Any IAF for an approach will be marked with the letters "IAF" on the chart.

After turning outbound on a full procedure (not radar vector) VOR approach, you turn in the direction of the procedure turn shown on the chart. The procedure turn is marked by either a full "loop" type of symbol or just a "barb" with an arrow on the end. Turn in that direction.

These sorts of questions are tricky to anwer online. Make sure to ask you CFII to explain it to you in person while looking at a chart.

 

[kellwolf]

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On the approach plate - plain view, which side inbound / final approach is protected? How do you know from just reading the plate.

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Are you talking about along the final approach course or doing a procedure turn to get established on the final? The side protected is the side the procedure turn is depicted.

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About VOR(on field) approach, VOR is IAF, right? After fly over VOR and turn outbound, which way you turn?

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In most cases, but there may be other IAFs. To reverse course and come back inbound you turn the direction the procedure turn is shown. Normally you'll pass the IAF, fly outbound for one minute, start the procedure turn (normally 45 degrees to the left or right), fly for another minute, then turn 180 degrees and re-intercept the final approach course.

 

[jrh]

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About VOR(on field) approach, VOR is IAF, right? After fly over VOR and turn outbound, which way you turn?

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In most cases, but there may be other IAFs. To reverse course and come back inbound you turn the direction the procedure turn is shown. Normally you'll pass the IAF, fly outbound for one minute, start the procedure turn (normally 45 degrees to the left or right), fly for another minute, then turn 180 degrees and re-intercept the final approach course.

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If the IAF is on the field, you probably ought to fly outbound for more than 1 minute after passing the IAF, at least if you're in a slow trainer aircraft.

 

[kellwolf]

True, as long as you stay within 10 nm. Ya know, those 172s are like rockets.

 

[mtsu_av8er]

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True, as long as you stay within 10 nm. Ya know, those 172s are like rockets.

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Get the PT6 conversion!!!

 

[kellwolf]

Showoff.

When ya ferrying that Twin Comanche?

 

[mtsu_av8er]

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Showoff.

When ya ferrying that Twin Comanche?

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We're waiting on all that legal mumbo-jumbo and title crap . . . who cares!!!

28th, now, it seems . . .

 

[hattrick]

just to add my 2 cents. not always will a specific procedure turn be designated. in some cases it is shown as a hold on a fix (ie your faf) and you have to figure out what kind of entry to do into that hold to get you established back on the inbound course. generally accomplished by your choice of teardrop or parallel entries. it accomplishes the same thing as the before mentioned method of turning 45 degrees in the depicted direction and then back around to the inbound. just look at the plate and ask yourself how you are going to get turned back around inbound (without doing a 180 steep turn) hope this helps a little

 

[EatSleepFly]

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About VOR(on field) approach, VOR is IAF, right? After fly over VOR and turn outbound, which way you turn?

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Are you asking which way you turn to go outbound if you're coming from the same direction as the procedure turn/final approach course? Like this approach, where the only IAF is on the field?

NDB 23 @ EHO (Shelby, NC)

I shot this approach the other morning because it was 1000' OVC, and it was more convenient than getting vectored all around for the GPS to 5 (this was the only approach to 23).

I was coming from the north, and the controller said, "...maintain 2700 till established inbound, cleared NDB 23 @ Shelby, report procedure turn inbound."

In that case, once I hit the NDB I turned left around to intercept the 038 outbound for a minute, then did the procedure turn to come inbound.

Is there anything that says you CAN'T turn right? Not that I know of. I was coming from the north-northwest, so a left turn was less of a heading change for me.