Questions about Key Lime

particlem86

particlem86

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Ok, before everybody starts saying the same things that have been repeated a million times here (and other places) I had just a few questions regarding Key Lime Air in the wild wild west.

Also, so you know, I've read from my guess every thread here and else where about them, multiple times. Lots are of what other people have heard, but I do appreciate the info. My questions are just what is it really like there? Do you really get outstation as home, or do some people actually live and fly out of DEN? what's the schedule really like? I've researched forums to flightaware and everything I can. I can promise I'm not trying to start another up roar. Their pilot group seems small with only like 31 according to another site. I was just hoping somebody on here was actually a pilot there with the hard facts! haha

Feel free to PM me (almost preferred to be honest) as well, as that might keep it a little less.. hostile haha.
I appreciate the help guys.
 
the questions you're asking arent unique to key lime, they're the same at every other UPS feeder. If you dont want to live at the out station, then you'll have to drive "home" The schedule will be 14 hour duty days all over night.
 
Thanks, and yea, I figured it would be pretty standard. Kinda sounds like fun... but not sure for how long haha.
 
I can't answer too many questions about Key Lime other than to tell you: read up on the NTSB reports.

As for the schedule. They run the same UPS schedule that every other operator has. Depart in the morning, sit somewhere all day, and return at night. Personally, I fly an outstation UPS route and think that's a lot nicer than the people that are based in the hub. I leave home at 5:00p.m. at night (this is when I get in my car from my house, not when my flight leaves) and am back home every morning by 7:30a.m. The people flying out of my companies 'home base' leave their home at 4:30a.m. and are back at home at 9:00p.m. So, I spend 9 hours awake at home and the other people spend 7 hours sleeping at home. Personally, I love the outstation life. I really don't care where I sleep at night (once you fall asleep, who really cares?) and like the fact I can get a ton of stuff done during the day. I work out an hour every day, practice guitar an hour every day, work on my car restoration 3 hours every day, and still have time to watch an hour of frasier and take an hour or 2 nap. It's a great life.
 
Pulls out a notebook and turns to a page titled "Companies I'm Better Off Unemployed Rather Than Work For"

I added Key Lime to this notebook about a year ago after hearing some of the horror stories about it, and reading what they wanted their pilots to do. The have some very nasty practices that are sure to get you in trouble the last time I looked in on them.

They might have changed in the year since, but for some reason I REALLY doubt that they have, and my suggestion: STAY FAR AWAY!
 
Thanks for the inputs, I really do appreciate it. Yea, I've heard it all about this place, and trust me, that all sits heavy on my opinion of them. Bottom line is though, its up to the pilot to make a flight. If they dangle me getting fired, then I guess that's that. My opinion is nobody cane make me get in an airplane I don't want to. I was just curious IF that was a route I (or somebody else ;) ) wanted to take, then exactly what kind of lifestyle could I expect? -outside of the shenanigans everybody talks about.
Thanks!
 
particlem86 said:
Thanks for the inputs, I really do appreciate it. Yea, I've heard it all about this place, and trust me, that all sits heavy on my opinion of them. Bottom line is though, its up to the pilot to make a flight. If they dangle me getting fired, then I guess that's that. My opinion is nobody cane make me get in an airplane I don't want to. I was just curious IF that was a route I (or somebody else ;) ) wanted to take, then exactly what kind of lifestyle could I expect? -outside of the shenanigans everybody talks about.
Thanks!
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I know jobs are hard to come by, but is it worth going into a job where your opinion of the company is that negative? I personally would rather be unemployed than knowingly work for a company that makes me nervous about my personal safety. I don't know much about Key Lime (I've read through the NTSB reports on them though and would definitely take some time reading those) and won't spread rumors about a company I don't know about. But, if you're going into it with a negative attitude towards the company it may not be worth even taking the job. To each their own, but for me it would not be worth it.
 
particlem86 said:
Bottom line is though, its up to the pilot to make a flight. If they dangle me getting fired, then I guess that's that.
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The shades of gray make that a much less cut and dried subject. I have a friend that I thought had a pretty high tolerance for -taking, and he quit after 2 months there, and vehemently warned me against doing so.
 
gomntwins said:
I know jobs are hard to come by, but is it worth going into a job where your opinion of the company is that negative?
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I wouldn't say I have a "negative" opinion. I don't know the company. Unfortunately like most people all I know is what other people have heard from somebody. But I do see your point. Too bad I can't track anybody down who is actually flying for them.


And pertro- how long ago did your friend fly there? why did he quit? any info to take into the cage would be .. well hopefully helpful.
the 18 month contract isn't too appealing. out 1.5 years or 7500 bucks if its not what is expected.

guess the bottom line, how much longer can I take watching somebody else fly while sitting next to them?:confused: (3.5+ yrs and counting)



(twins- your company isn't hiring are they? ;) )
 
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