Question about building multi time in an old bird.

[Itchy]

They don't get to be old airplanes by being bad airplanes.

 

[TallFlyer]

The return on investment is measured by additional student revenue, not by tying yourself to a job to pay for a "checkout" that should never be paid for by the employee in the first place.

How is promising your employer 3-6 months in return for a checkout any different than the "gentlemen's agreement" at Cape Air?

 

[WacoFan]

A 60 year old airplane? Why are you questioning whether to fly a modern spam can with flat motors and a nosewheel?

 

[dasleben]

How is promising your employer 3-6 months in return for a checkout any different than the "gentlemen's agreement" at Cape Air?

I was never monetarily tied to such an agreement, and that was based on them giving me my ATP, not a multi checkout.

 

[mshunter]

How is promising your employer 3-6 months in return for a checkout any different than the "gentlemen's agreement" at Cape Air?

AFAIK, there is no money out of pocket to fly for Cape Air. Training contract are almost a necisarry evil. It cost a lot more than $1k to train someone for a job at a 135 operation.

 

[dasleben]

AFAIK, there is no money out of pocket to fly for Cape Air. Training contract are almost a necisarry evil. It cost a lot more than $1k to train someone for a job at a 135 operation.

It's not even a contract over there. I was free to leave any time I wanted to after getting my ATP through them; the only penalty for breaking the agreement was that I wouldn't be eligible for rehire. I like the idea of having a place I could go back to should I need it, so I gave them my year.

 

[TallFlyer]

My point is you gave them some amount of time commitment in exchange for training. Granted the situation with the OP is different, but if he likes his job, is planning on staying a while, isn't qualified to move on anywhere else for now, what's wrong with the OP giving his employer some amount of commitment as a negotiating tactic? He'd only be giving away something (time) he was going to give anyway, so he's not really lost anything.

 

[dasleben]

My point is you gave them some amount of time commitment in exchange for training. Granted the situation with the OP is different, but if he likes his job, is planning on staying a while, isn't qualified to move on anywhere else for now, what's wrong with the OP giving his employer some amount of commitment as a negotiating tactic? He'd only be giving away something (time) he was going to give anyway, so he's not really lost anything.

Because it's a multi checkout, not something like an ATP or type rating. It was also 2008. If he goes down your path, he should be very careful that he doesn't tie himself down unnecessarily.

 

[ScorpionStinger]

But my question is, What would you do?

I wouldn't pay for it.... The buck has to stop somewhere. It's like I work for Macdonald's teaching others how to flip burgers, and they need someone trained to teach others how to dunk fries in hot oil. Why would I PAY my EMPLOYER to "allow" me to use their frier????? A frier I'll be using to make them profits as an employee.....

Think about that..... It's morally and ethically wrong! This is how companies (Airlines & Flight Schools) take advantage of the passion/love we pilots have for flying... Remember It's a job! They're not doing you a favor. You Are An Asset and a Skilled Professional.