S.T.Aviator
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Looks like the Pro Course has gone up $5000, but if you stick around as an instructor for 6 months you get back $4000.
http://aribenaviator.com/proCourse.html
http://aribenaviator.com/proCourse.html
How does he justify the price increases? Aviator is now only slightly cheaper than ATP. For that price you get an instructor (if you're lucky), elderly planes that have seen better days, hopeless management and a French dude with a shady past and bad time keeping.
Now just isn't the time to be getting into flight training I'm afraid. Training costs are escalating and the regionals are not paying more. The economy is going into recession and the aviation hiring machine will soon change to a firing machine. By the end of this year I think things will have gone all wrong and the last thing you want to be stuck with is $45,000 of debt. Find a more affordable way to train and refuse to pay these insane prices.
Maybe Ari Cohen, could tell us why the price has increased?
Don't get me wrong the Duchess is/was a great plane but they are getting a little long in the tooth now.
Don't fly a beat up airplane; fly a beat up airplane. Which one is it?For that price you get an instructor (if you're lucky), elderly planes that have seen better days,. . .
I'd consider paying the extra for something decent like one of the DA42's. They are brand new and cost very little extra.
How does he justify the price increases? Aviator is now only slightly cheaper than ATP. For that price you get an instructor (if you're lucky), elderly planes that have seen better days, hopeless management and a French dude with a shady past and bad time keeping.
Now just isn't the time to be getting into flight training I'm afraid. Training costs are escalating and the regionals are not paying more. The economy is going into recession and the aviation hiring machine will soon change to a firing machine. By the end of this year I think things will have gone all wrong and the last thing you want to be stuck with is $45,000 of debt. Find a more affordable way to train and refuse to pay these insane prices.
Maybe Ari Cohen, could tell us why the price has increased?
What, spending a year at the French naval academy, washing out, coming over here and pretending to be some big ex fighter jock to flight school students is honorable? Sure, the dude knows a bit about the plane but if you'd spent thousands of hours flying the thing you'd know a bit about it too. When I was there he was a major source of training delays, had no idea how to prioritize, delegate and act as a manager. And why would anyone want to work as a CP at a flight school is beyond me; you'd have to be desperate. I'll stick to the airline gig I think. Well Danzig, I sure hope you're right about the economy but aviation has always been a very cyclical industry.The Chief Pilot is a very integral person with, as far as I know, a very honorable past. He knows as much about the Duchess as her original engineers do. He is a very experienced, and proficient pilot. Walk a mile in another's shoes before you criticize them, and judge not unless you yourself want to be judged; why don't you go and become a CP at a very busy flight school, then come back here and tell us you keep a tight schedule?
The economy is going into recession and the aviation hiring machine will soon change to a firing machine.
Maybe Ari Cohen, could tell us why the price has increased?
FF you can't put out info like that and not back it up. Pierre was/is one of the good guys at the school.
As for the costs, if you did 100 hrs in a DA42 at $265hr and 100hrs of safety pilot time building $133hr it would add up to about $40,000. Add 15 hrs in a glass C172 at about $2500 and it would still only add up to $42,500. Add accomodation and you'll come out at about the same price as the new Pro Course price. How is this a good deal? Ari?
Even if you are right, who cares?I can back it up or I wouldn't put it out there. I'd rather not show you the smoking gun but I have hard evidence of what I said. I was shown this evidence a while ago and have held off mentioning it. I wish I hadn't but I've done it now so.... FACT is he was briefly in the French Navy for ONE YEAR, not enough time to complete military flight training. Fine, the military isn't for everyone but why claim to be a fighter jock? FACT is he has no major turbine time, let alone a hot jet. See if he dares to tell you I'm wrong.
and a French dude with a shady past and bad time keeping.
a French dude with a shady past and bad time keeping. . .
In response to your question, the main reason the price has increased is the price of fuel today. Since August the price per barrel of crude oil has gone from $70.00-$91.00.,(2 weeks ago it was at over $100.00 a barrel.) Since one of our main expenses at Aviator is fuel, we have to raise our price in order to survive in today's market. The price has also increased since we have acquired 3 more BE-76's along with some other major impovements in the school which I will be able to annouce in the next couple of weeks.
Just $65hr more for training on a Twinstar; I think that's good value.
Thanks for the update Ari, I'm sure mr. negativity will have something wise and unintelligible to say. Got pictures of the new Duchess's yet?
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Bill