Pot Smokin' Pilots

jima7011

jima7011

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What I can't figure out is how a person, knowing or wanting to be a pilot, would smoke dope--knowing that it is potentially a "deal breaker". Do people actually think things through anymore?
 
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jima7011 said:
What I can't figure out is how a person, knowing or wanting to be a pilot, would smoke dope--knowing that it is potentially a "deal breaker". Do people actually think things through anymore?
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Two years is a long time. Things change. People change.

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I'm sure he'll get a medical. I know someone who's done worse things than pot & now flies commercial. Granted, it was a long time ago when he did it.
 
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minitour said:
Two years is a long time. Things change. People change.

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Exactly. Those that don't realize that, frankly don't have much life experience.

This isn't even a valid question from an AME in the first place... Douglas, are you sure you have the right story? Sounds more like he admitted to a conviction, which is a totally different story (and a very valid question on the medical form).

What AME performs a drug test anyway? When we piss on the paper strip, they're checking for sugar levels which are indicative of diabetes. There is NO drug test involved with a medical. Drug tests are performed for the 135/121 guys, but it's different than the AME (one pre-employment, then randomly selected afterwards).
 
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SFLAX said:
I know many of you will kring at this, but here it goes. Lie, if you can pass a drug test, meaning, you have smoked dope in the last few years and it has been longer then lets say a few months and you plan on very doing it again, why confess. Two years for weed, come on. We all go through our early 20's, late teen years. I might have been lucky, but who knows, In college I played sports, I passed my NCAA required drug tests. But I might have smoked some cheeba over the years. Have not done it since the late 90's. But I was told by the older players, only ansewer questions that you can be caught in a lie with truthfully and the rest be vague. And yes a few of my fellow teammates are in jail, college football what do you expect.
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Heck yeah...that's the kind of attitude I want in the people who fly my family around!

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You miss the point, there are people that have smoked pot and people that are smoking pot. I meant to say, why throw yourselves into a s***storm if you don't need to. I can not believe that no one has ever told a lie. I know of a few guys that have failed drug tests, that is wrong. Why would you not want me to fly your family, I know of a few recovering alcoholics that fly for the majors, they seem to be okay, I have over 3000 accident free hours, an ATP and 3 type ratings. So what if I smoked some weed like 10 years ago. But i do agree don't lie on an appilcation, but look at the question at ansewer it.
 
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SFLAX said:
You miss the point, there are people that have smoked pot and people that are smoking pot. I meant to say, why throw yourselves into a s***storm if you don't need to. I can not believe that no one has ever told a lie. I know of a few guys that have failed drug tests, that is wrong. Why would you not want me to fly your family, I know of a few recovering alcoholics that fly for the majors, they seem to be okay, I have over 3000 accident free hours, an ATP and 3 type ratings. So what if I smoked some weed like 10 years ago. But i do agree don't lie on an appilcation, but look at the question at ansewer it.
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Because pilots- nay all people must be perfect dammit! That is all that fits into my limited view of the world. Much like a Mortal Combat, "Flawless Victory!", so much your life be as a pilot and before. After all, I am very dumb, and I believe all this.
 
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SFLAX said:
You miss the point, there are people that have smoked pot and people that are smoking pot. I meant to say, why throw yourselves into a s***storm if you don't need to. I can not believe that no one has ever told a lie. I know of a few guys that have failed drug tests, that is wrong. Why would you not want me to fly your family, I know of a few recovering alcoholics that fly for the majors, they seem to be okay, I have over 3000 accident free hours, an ATP and 3 type ratings. So what if I smoked some weed like 10 years ago. But i do agree don't lie on an appilcation, but look at the question at ansewer it.
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Its not the dope smoking that bugs me.

Its the "you can do it so long as you don't get caught"
 
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As stated, why bother admitting to it if they cannot prove otherwise??? Go ahead and claim that's not a professional attitude, but you're not hurting anyone.

Truthfully, I'd have NO problem with a pilot using weed while say on furlough. The herb is pretty benign compared to other drugs that people use, legally or otherwise.

Flame away.
 
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Holocene said:
As stated, why bother admitting to it if they cannot prove otherwise??? Go ahead and claim that's not a professional attitude, but you're not hurting anyone.

Truthfully, I'd have NO problem with a pilot using weed while say on furlough. The herb is pretty benign compared to other drugs that people use, legally or otherwise.

Flame away.
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It should be legal, but it's not. Laws might not be to your liking, but suck it up and follow the rules.
 
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patty@myflightsurgeon.com said:
Have any of you read the part on the 8500-7 about " all the above is true" if you lie or "not say anything", you can go to jail or pay a fine if it you get caught!

And if you decide to "omit" the said information keep your enemies close and your ex's closer!!;)
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yes, that came to my mind, but i think for some people it comes down to I've invested so much in my career, and have no backup. In most cases I think you would have to damn near have a medical incident in a cockpit. Im pretty sure the FAA cant go around pulling random medical records.

Not yet anyway.
 
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Wow...I'm disappointed I didn't get such a full and open response when I asked a question about pot last week....

...just awkward...thinly veiled, accusatory questions...
 
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WoH said:
Wow...I'm disappointed I didn't get such a full and open response when I asked a question about pot last week....

...just awkward...thinly veiled, accusatory questions...
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What was your question again?
 
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SFLAX said:
So what if I smoked some weed like 10 years ago. But i do agree don't lie on an appilcation, but look at the question at ansewer it.
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Because it leads to harder stuff. It is the gateway drug! Remember, just say no ...on the ap. :D
 
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