planning to be a cfi @smo/pmp?

amit_agarwal2007

New Member
hi guys
my name is amit currently residing in india. i am planning to join the cfi academy program of american flyers. i was wondering where to go santa monica or pompano beach. i have been keeping track on weather at pmp and smo and found that smo was much better option. what do u guys think?
please help me out. i was even wondering what i should study before i reach american flyers? can anyone help me out with the accomodation at santa monica?

i would even like to know whether american flyers is a better option or should i go somewhere else?
 

Maurus

The Great Gazoo
Go to PMP. You will be well prepaired at PMP for your checkrides compaired to other locations. Also PMP will have your first checkride ready before the 30 day mark while other locations will usually go over before getting the first ride scheduled. Great instructors at PMP and the weather wont be too bad. Either good flying or thunderstorms.
 

amit_agarwal2007

New Member
@maurus, @moxiepilot

thanks for replyin guys. i do appreciate it. well maurus what i am afraid for at pmp is the weather. well i even plan to go to smo coz i can arrange for my accomodation over der but i dont know how to find a place to live in at pmp.

moreover somewhere inside me i want to see california coz i have seen many places like north carolina, south carolina, alabama, atlanta, jacksonville, florida but california.

well as i am in india it really doesnt matter for which place i get my ticket coz it will cost the same. so what do u think i should do?
 

amit_agarwal2007

New Member
c'mon guys plz help me out.......m so ####in confused............

can u even suggest me any other good school apart from american flyers???????

am i doing right by joining american flyers????
 

EnRoute

New Member
I personally would have nothing to do with AF. I did my commercial, and initial CFI work at AF back in the early 90's. Unless they have changed dramatically, I would not recommend them to my worst enemy. I don't feel that they had their students best interest at heart. I can't remember the spacifics but I was pretty fired up at the time. I wrote the president of the company to express my dismay and anger. I received no response.

They may have made some changes, but buyer beware. Good luck with your training.
 

nonstop

Well-Known Member
Amit,
I just got my CFI, CFII at AF (SMO) yesterday. Let me tell you what I think of their program. For the most part it was a good program. You are in there for 30 consecutive days. You can do their CFI course with a CFII option. If you chose the CFII option, they can auto graduate you through a checkride you do in house as they are approved to do this by the FAA. The positive about this is that you don't have to do an actual checkride with an examiner for your CFII, you do it with an authorized instructor. I felt that checkride wasn't as stressful. You get 4 hours with an instructor everyday during which time all the instructor does is sit in the back and watch you teach different lesson plan and critque how good or bad you lesson was. I was very disappointed with this method. Ground instruction was minimal as best. As far as the flying, you are not assigned one specific instructor, you will fly with different instructors. They will each tell you to do things differently, there is no standard, which makes it very difficult for the CFI candidate to figure out what way is the correct way. They never stressed the importance of knowing word for word what you need to say during each maneuver and they don't give you any printed material that has this information on it. They will MAKE you buy four binders that contain genaral information as well as information for each maneuver and it will break down each maneuver step by step but it will not tell you what you need to SAY during each maneuver. This in my opinion is the most important part of performing the maneuvers for the examiner during the checkride, so if you chose to go to AF or any where else, make sure you get this part down. The lesson plan format they teach you to prepare is, in my opinion, excellent and the best I've seen around. When the course is over, you will have a complete binder full of lesson plans for every subject in the PTS. I feel this was very valuable. If you are self motivated and are willing to put in the work for 30 days straight, then I feel you can benefit from this program, but understand you will have to learn a lot of material on your own. As fa as the examiners, the one I got, I felt was very fair and genuinely wanted me to pass. The cost of the checkride for the initial CFI is now up to $600.00 and thats not part of the cost for the course. At the end of the day, I don't regret taking this course. I was able to get my CFI and CFII at the same time and I got to meet several good guy that were in my class and I know we will be keeping in touch. We helped each other along the way and I feel none of us could have gotten through the course alone, plus it's a great way to network as they all start to move forward with their careers.

Hope this information helps you make up your mind and good luck to you.
 

amit_agarwal2007

New Member
Amit,
I just got my CFI, CFII at AF (SMO) yesterday. Let me tell you what I think of their program. For the most part it was a good program. You are in there for 30 consecutive days. You can do their CFI course with a CFII option. If you chose the CFII option, they can auto graduate you through a checkride you do in house as they are approved to do this by the FAA. The positive about this is that you don't have to do an actual checkride with an examiner for your CFII, you do it with an authorized instructor. I felt that checkride wasn't as stressful. You get 4 hours with an instructor everyday during which time all the instructor does is sit in the back and watch you teach different lesson plan and critque how good or bad you lesson was. I was very disappointed with this method. Ground instruction was minimal as best. As far as the flying, you are not assigned one specific instructor, you will fly with different instructors. They will each tell you to do things differently, there is no standard, which makes it very difficult for the CFI candidate to figure out what way is the correct way. They never stressed the importance of knowing word for word what you need to say during each maneuver and they don't give you any printed material that has this information on it. They will MAKE you buy four binders that contain genaral information as well as information for each maneuver and it will break down each maneuver step by step but it will not tell you what you need to SAY during each maneuver. This in my opinion is the most important part of performing the maneuvers for the examiner during the checkride, so if you chose to go to AF or any where else, make sure you get this part down. The lesson plan format they teach you to prepare is, in my opinion, excellent and the best I've seen around. When the course is over, you will have a complete binder full of lesson plans for every subject in the PTS. I feel this was very valuable. If you are self motivated and are willing to put in the work for 30 days straight, then I feel you can benefit from this program, but understand you will have to learn a lot of material on your own. As fa as the examiners, the one I got, I felt was very fair and genuinely wanted me to pass. The cost of the checkride for the initial CFI is now up to $600.00 and thats not part of the cost for the course. At the end of the day, I don't regret taking this course. I was able to get my CFI and CFII at the same time and I got to meet several good guy that were in my class and I know we will be keeping in touch. We helped each other along the way and I feel none of us could have gotten through the course alone, plus it's a great way to network as they all start to move forward with their careers.

Hope this information helps you make up your mind and good luck to you.
thanks a ton for replying man. congrats for getting your ticket.
well in india you need 200hrs of solo to become an instructor. so what i am planning is to go to long beach flying club to get my rest 50 hrs of solo and den i will get my i-20 transfer to af in smo. well even LBFC provides a cfi course for which they charge $4299 in which we get 60 hrs of grnd and 15 hrs of flight training. what do u think i should do?
 

nonstop

Well-Known Member
Well I think for a liitle bit more money I would do the course at AF in SMO becasue you will get the CFII as well and a total of 20 hrs of flight time.
 
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