Pilots Oppose Call for In-Cockpit Cameras

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Pilots Oppose Call for In-Cockpit Cameras

WASHINGTON - Airline pilots are dead set against putting cameras in cockpits as safety officials step up the pressure to require them as an aid to accident investigation and prevention.

NTSB Renews Call for Cameras in Cockpit
 
The National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) launched a two-day hearing Tuesday to renew its call for all civilian planes to be equipped with crash-resistant cockpit image recorders.
Four years ago, the NTSB (news - web sites) recommended that the FAA (news - web sites) require large aircraft to be equipped with cameras four years ago, but the FAA still hasn't done it. Subsequently, NTSB added small planes to their recommendation.
NTSB senior air safety investigator Frank Hilldrup said cockpit image recorders would produce faster and more accurate conclusions about the causes of aviation accidents.

Nonetheless, the idea of cameras in the cockpits drew strong opposition from airline pilots.
John David of the Allied Pilots Association, which represents pilots at American Airlines, said having a camera monitor everything they do would affect their ability to perform.
"It's going to be very intrusive," David said. "You always see the glass lens."
The Air Line Pilots Association (news - web sites), the largest pilots union, issued a statement saying "the benefits of video imaging are vastly overrated, because far more effective and efficient tools exist."
Advocates of the devices said there are ways to protect pilots' privacy — encrypting the information, for example, or pointing the cameras away from the pilots' heads and shoulders.
But one reason pilots oppose image recorders is that such promises were broken after they agreed to the introduction of cockpit voice recorders in the 1960s, the Air Line Pilots Association said in a statement submitted to the board.

Pilots had been told the tapes would be used for accident investigations only and wouldn't be publicly disclosed. But in 1989, a 6 o'clock news program played the cockpit voice recorder from Delta Flight 1141, which crashed on takeoff in Dallas. The crew and passengers survived.
Though laws were subsequently passed that limited the use of cockpit voice recordings, they are still used against pilots in criminal proceedings and disciplinary actions by employers, the statement said.
Airlines are skeptical of the cameras. They want a cost-benefit analysis done first before they have to pay for the devices.
 
My question is, why aren't there CC Cameras monitoring the cabin on an airplane. From a security standpoint, the pilot's in the cockpit would be able to monitor what's going on in the cabin and if, heaven forbid, there is a securiy problem onboard, they may see it first and be able to alert the authorities before the situation turns critical.
 
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My question is, why aren't there CC Cameras monitoring the cabin on an airplane. From a security standpoint, the pilot's in the cockpit would be able to monitor what's going on in the cabin and if, heaven forbid, there is a securiy problem onboard, they may see it first and be able to alert the authorities before the situation turns critical.

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It doesnt do as much good as you would think.
 
They had just decided to put cameras on school busses when I was in 6th grade. Didn't keep the kids from misbehaving one bit. In fact, half the time we wondered if there was even a real camera in there. (It was a black box mounted on the wall with a 2-way mirror "lens".)
 
When are people just going to calm down, I mean this is getting ridiculous! The only way I'm for it is if I can watch it on the little TV screen in front of me!
 
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They had just decided to put cameras on school busses when I was in 6th grade. Didn't keep the kids from misbehaving one bit. In fact, half the time we wondered if there was even a real camera in there. (It was a black box mounted on the wall with a 2-way mirror "lens".)

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THe point is not to stop people from "misbehaving" but to have some way to monitor whats happening inside the cabin in case something happens and the pilots can then have a chance at stopping anything terrible from happening.



[/ QUOTE ] When are people just going to calm down, I mean this is getting ridiculous! The only way I'm for it is if I can watch it on the little TV screen in front of me!

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I hear that, remember when on United we could listen to the flight-deck, those were the days....
 
Well, we've got a decent-sized porthole we can look into the cabin. But considering that once the cockpit door closes, there's just me and some old guy sitting in MY seat on the airplane! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Your best bet to alert you that something is going awry in the cabin is a frantic flight attendant.
 
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