Personal SR22 Pilot

Yank&BankmyRJ145

Yank&BankmyRJ145

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I have a friend whom was offered a pilot position flying a SR22. They only fly about 100 hrs a year but want a personal pilot on call for them. There last pilot was on a retainer. What is the market price these days? He will also manage the a/c too.

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minitour said:
Location? Define "on call". I assume strictly part 91?

-mini
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Dallas, TX
ON CALL- their personal pilot whenever they want/need to fly, but you can call to see if they will need you for specific days(a day or two out). Most of the flying is for their business (weekdays) and yes its all part 91
 
Sounds like it could be a cool deal actually if the flights are scheduled a day or two out. I'd say $40-$45k not knowing how expensive Dallas is. Especially if he's managing as well as flying. Just flying, probably knock $10k off.

As with anything, he's worth what he can negotiate.

-mini
 
I_Money said:
Lets be honest you can offer 30 and I am someone will take it.
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What's your point? It's a safe bet there is someone out there willing to take nothing to fly the plane. He should be pushing for fair compensation even though some other moron will not.
 
Also don't forget benefits. I could see upper 20's provided medical, vac, and retirement included (and good). Also make sure you get a clear understanding of expenses when traveling.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
??? what?
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What? You're suggesting he ask for a $25-29,000 salary just because he gets a decent benefit package?

I made $26,000 flying coolers full of piss and fecal matter around south Florida. I wasn't responsible for anyone but myself; when I parked the airplane for the night, it was someone else's problem if there was a mechanical issue. When you're someone's personal pilot, you become responsible for those things. Before, during and after the flight. When you start flying and managing ANY sort of corporate aircraft, whether it be a Cirrus or a G550, you're playing in the big leagues. He deserves big league pay.

$45,000 minimum. Plus benefits.
 
But its only for 100 hours a year. I think the company would find other work to be done too (safety or something) and that would allow an increase in pay. If the pilot is just responsible for the aircraft and fiying 100 hours a year I think you wouldnt get much more then that (at least here in NEO). That would be a lot of down time. Yes, there is the responsibility related to the aircraft, but with the proper service center any/all issues shouldn't be a problem with the Cirrus.

Getting it back out of the shop might be a problem though...

I also said a starting salary.. it would depend on the level of experience the person has going in. The OP didn't mention any requirement of Cirrus time, or even CPL.

I also think the benefits packaged I listed is more then decent.

TFaudree_ERAU said:
What? You're suggesting he ask for a $25-29,000 salary just because he gets a decent benefit package?

I made $26,000 flying coolers full of piss and fecal matter around south Florida. I wasn't responsible for anyone but myself; when I parked the airplane for the night, it was someone else's problem if there was a mechanical issue. When you're someone's personal pilot, you become responsible for those things. Before, during and after the flight. When you start flying and managing ANY sort of corporate aircraft, whether it be a Cirrus or a G550, you're playing in the big leagues. He deserves big league pay.

$45,000 minimum. Plus benefits.
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Yank&BankmyRJ145 said:
I have a friend whom was offered a pilot position flying a SR22. They only fly about 100 hrs a year but want a personal pilot on call for them. There last pilot was on a retainer. What is the market price these days? He will also manage the a/c too.

ADMIN's if this is in the wrong place please redirect:dunno:
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I am a personal pilot for a SR22 perspective, G3 Turbo, I have 2000 TT, make a salary of $36,000 a year, plus 40 dollars an hour if I fly over 30 hours a month. I average 35 hours a month.<O:p</O:p
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TFaudree_ERAU said:
What? You're suggesting he ask for a $25-29,000 salary just because he gets a decent benefit package?

I made $26,000 flying coolers full of piss and fecal matter around south Florida. I wasn't responsible for anyone but myself; when I parked the airplane for the night, it was someone else's problem if there was a mechanical issue. When you're someone's personal pilot, you become responsible for those things. Before, during and after the flight. When you start flying and managing ANY sort of corporate aircraft, whether it be a Cirrus or a G550, you're playing in the big leagues. He deserves big league pay.

$45,000 minimum. Plus benefits.
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45,000 for one hundred hours a year is way over the market value. Would it be nice to get 45 K a year? of course. Should we get 45 K a year? yes, However the average personal Cirrus pilot (flying every day) gets around 35, Its like a flight instructor position.
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
When you start flying and managing ANY sort of corporate aircraft...you're playing in the big leagues. He deserves big league pay.

$45,000 minimum. Plus benefits.
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What he said.

ComplexHiAv8r said:
But its only for 100 hours a year.
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Fly_Unity said:
45,000 for one hundred hours a year is way over the market value.
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Okay, so in August our plane moved about 65 hours, of which I was PIC for 40. This month I've flown about 10. Maybe I should give some of the money back this month...because I'm being paid way too much to fly 10 hours. This year it's about 100 hours, next year once they've figured out that their personal pilot is available to them...it's 250, then 400, then they have their pilot put the plane on a 135 certificate and it turns into 600 hours a year. Or not. Who cares? He's going to be managing the plane, not just driving it. Managing it can be a 40 hour a week job by itself, plus flying.

This has gone from a good informational thread to just a disgusting cross section of what's wrong with this industry.

If pilots don't think they're worth appropriate pay and QOL, how do we convince those in charge of pay that we're worth it?

-mini
 
Seems like nobody is listening to the fact that you are on call. i.e. haveing a second job could be detrimantal. You work for them 24 HOURS A DAY. The previous pilot was on retainer. That means that this company has dibbs. IMHO, $45k is a lowball. I don't care if they have you on call to fly a freaking C-150. On call is on call.

Pick 2 of the 3

Price
Quality
Service

If you want all three, you will have to pay.
 
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