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azaviator08

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For part 135 minimums of meeting cross country time you can count anytime you land at another airport right?

So, how do you log this in your logbook?

I have only been logging 50 nm or more xcrosses, but how would I show in my logbook that I meet 135 mins. Should I go back and log everytime I landed at another airport as xcross??
 
azaviator08 said:
For part 135 minimums of meeting cross country time you can count anytime you land at another airport right?

So, how do you log this in your logbook?

I have only been logging 50 nm or more xcrosses, but how would I show in my logbook that I meet 135 mins. Should I go back and log everytime I landed at another airport as xcross??
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Make a seperate column in you logbook. You can label it x-country p2p or something like that.
 
I simply added up all my flights that were point to point until I had 500 hours. Then I simply made a entry in the remarks "500 hours point to point dd/mm/yy"

Since no one will care after you meet that specific milestone, I don't see the point of using a extra column in your logbook.
 
I went back and looked at all my flights that landed at another airport, until I had 500, stop counting and made a note.

as for ATP mins, still counting till I get the my ATP cert, should be taking the ride sometime this summer. (I'll stop after I get my ATP cert)
 
azaviator08 said:
For part 135 minimums of meeting cross country time you can count anytime you land at another airport right?

So, how do you log this in your logbook?

I have only been logging 50 nm or more xcrosses, but how would I show in my logbook that I meet 135 mins. Should I go back and log everytime I landed at another airport as xcross??
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This is a common misconception. It is not a 135 minimum, but a 61 issue.

61.1

(3) Cross-country time means--

(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(3)(ii) through (b)(3)(vi) of this section, time acquired during a flight--

(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
(B) Conducted in an aircraft;

(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and

(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.
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It's really a bookkeeping issue. Separate column works and is probably worth the page real estate as opposed to running through all your entries backwards to add them up after the fact. There are more inconsequential things (from an FAA qualification standpoint) people add columns for.

But an eLog that will calculate your point-to-point time (and a bunch of other things for various purposes) is really the best overall solution for tracking totals.
 
mojo6911 said:
This is a common misconception. It is not a 135 minimum, but a 61 issue.

61.1
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?? How is "For part 135 minimums of meeting cross country time you can count anytime you land at another airport..." a misconception??

It's quite correct - misconceptions are generally incorrect. That you need to look at another reg for the definition of what a loggable cross country is doesn't make it a misconception.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
?? How is "For part 135 minimums of meeting cross country time you can count anytime you land at another airport..." a misconception??

It's quite correct - misconceptions are generally incorrect. That you need to look at another reg for the definition of what a loggable cross country is doesn't make it a misconception.
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I am just saying it is not solely for meeting the experience requirements of part 135.
 
What I did was after my traing was done I combined both colums (p2p & >50nm). Part 61 is the only time the 50nm rule matters so after your training is done you should be able to just start logging all p2p as x/c. I believe this is true but correct me if I am wrong. See FAR 61.1(3).
 
lrey said:
What I did was after my traing was done I combined both colums (p2p & >50nm). Part 61 is the only time the 50nm rule matters so after your training is done you should be able to just start logging all p2p as x/c. I believe this is true but correct me if I am wrong. See FAR 61.1(3).
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Well, yes, you are right but it's not "after training." You can always log the P2P flights a cross country. The question isn't really what you can log, but what counts for various things. That's a bookkeeping issue.
 
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