Oh Alaskan..

No systemwide email sent out. There was a pilot that was off Dec 20, 21, 22, 23. And then reserve for Dec 24, Dec 25, Dec 26, Dec 27. Said pilot got a Covid shot on Dec 23, knowing they would have to be pulled off reserve for Dec 24 and Dec 25 due to the FAA rule for 48 hrs no fly after shot.

CP emailed the pilot and basically gave a thrashing. Certainly one would recognize that pulling a move like that would get red flagged and sent up the management chain. That’s a summary. Since the email wasn’t sent mass blast to the entire pilot group, I won’t blast it here. It’s visible online in other forums. It was a private email between the CPs and 1 pilot.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
No systemwide email sent out. There was a pilot that was off Dec 20, 21, 22, 23. And then reserve for Dec 24, Dec 25, Dec 26, Dec 27. Said pilot got a Covid shot on Dec 23, knowing they would have to be pulled off reserve for Dec 24 and Dec 25 due to the FAA rule for 48 hrs no fly after shot.
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This is definitely something I would have done. :bounce:
 
Derg said:
So was he expecting a different reaction from the CPO?
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In my opinion, the letter was pretty unprofessional. If the CP was looking for answers they could have just asked the pilot what was up and why they had to do it that day.

I got my booster on the December 23rd… It was the first available appointment when I scheduled it on December 10th. It’s entirely possible that’s what happened to this pilot—more likely the pilot was gaming the system, but the response from the CP was still unacceptable.
 
Derg said:
So was he expecting a different reaction from the CPO?
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Ehhhh. This isn't a pilot vs company man thing. It's like sitting on a 110 degree cargo ramp in Mexico waiting for some colonel to get paid off so you can get a clearance, and the deadheading checkairman in the jumpseat, who is not an engineer, tells you he thinks the APU exhaust temp is getting a little high. The choice is run the APU close to redline, or turn the packs off for who knows how long and melt.

Bob, is it green, or is it red?

The rules are the rules. Were any broken? Doesn't seem like it in this case; pushed to the limit indeed, but... And a company representative, sending out such an amateurish email, right or wrong, is regional airline stuff. Like telling your pilots that there are too many go around from unstable approaches, it causes delays. Or telling your pilots southernjets is sharing the attendee list of a jobfair. Or making rape jokes in an all company email.

The email will get out, and the sender will look dumb. The company too.
 
TWP said:
If one pilot gaming the system to get the holiday off causes enough of a problem for the CPO to get upset about it, then the problem is staffing, not that particular pilot.
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And the immediate hostile assumption the pilot is “gaming” the system. Like it’s not entirely possible there were limited appointments in the midst of one of the biggest virus surges we’ve had since the pandemic started.
 
TWP said:
If one pilot gaming the system to get the holiday off causes enough of a problem for the CPO to get upset about it, then the problem is staffing, not that particular pilot.
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Assuming the pilot isn't already a problem child, this is true. For all we know, this could have been issue seven, eight, or nine. Frequent flyers in the CP's office are real issue.
 
JordanD said:
And the immediate hostile assumption the pilot is “gaming” the system. Like it’s not entirely possible there were limited appointments in the midst of one of the biggest virus surges we’ve had since the pandemic started.
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Lol...do you not fly with pilots often? Sure it's possible that there were limited appointments....but let's be real. My take on the scenario is said pilot is known to CPO. Pilot games the system, CPO gets annoyed and writes letter. That letter doesn't get written if that CP had never heard of the pilot before. (I couldn't even tell you who my chief pilots are...zero clue. And they'd have no reason to know me either. That's how blissfully disconnected I am....I do know our secretary's names).
 
alaskadrifter said:
I’m curious why the company would need to know the reason for calling in sick, why not just say “physically unfit to fly” or something?
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“This is my healthcare, administered under the advice of my physician. Feel free to avail yourself of other contractually compliant avenues for investigating me should you sincerely question my fitness for flight, but we are done, here.”
 
juxtapilot said:
In my opinion, the letter was pretty unprofessional. If the CP was looking for answers they could have just asked the pilot what was up and why they had to do it that day.

I got my booster on the December 23rd… It was the first available appointment when I scheduled it on December 10th. It’s entirely possible that’s what happened to this pilot—more likely the pilot was gaming the system, but the response from the CP was still unacceptable.
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It was MASSIVELY unprofessional and that chief should be ashamed of herself.
 
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