NWA service to Ellsworth AFB?

Here I was hoping to see a press release from Ice Cube, Yella Dawg, Dr. Dre and Eazy-E!
 
Anyone notice that on the website there was an advertisment for NWA Vacations?
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...but on the topic...

It happens a little more than the mass media realizes.

For some pilots, calling the 'visual' is a sort of macho thing. Personally, I'm a big scardey cat and won't accept a visual until I'm willing to bet my career that it's the correct airport, it matches the Nav display and I'm 105% sure.

Flying into I think it was GSO or TYS or someplace like that, the captain exclaims, "Tell'em I've got the airport".

I take a peek and say, "Well, that's a different airport".

"Naw, it's the airport"

"That's XYZ field, same runway config right there on your approach chart".

Luckily before I had to have a 'moment', approach calls and says, "airport 12 o'clock 25 miles, off your 11 o'clock and 8 miles is 'blankity blank field'"

Silence.

But hey, that's why we have two pilots in the cockpit!
 
Thats too funny man. I could see that happening a bit too when they clear you for a visual and you think you have the airport but then don't. Hehehe

I once lined up on downwind for Miramar and thought it was Montgomery field in San Diego. It was one of my first flights as a new Private! Hahaha. All I was looking for was two runways with one going diagnally across it. Well, they were both like that and only a few miles apart.

I finally realized it when the Montgomery tower called and said I was on downwind for the military base. Oooooooopss!

Then there was that time.....hehehe..
 
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Here I was hoping to see a press release from Ice Cube, Yella Dawg, Dr. Dre and Eazy-E!

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I see someone likes old school gangsta rap....
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Matthew
 
Same thing happened to me. Instead of landing at Tampa Intl I landed at at McDill AFB. Off course this was in flightsim though.
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This happens alot in TUS. Cause when TUS is using there main runway 11L/29R and your out say in Marana or near Picacho Peak you can't see TUS.

But your sure can see Davis Monthon Air Force base. Even odder still is the fact that both airports are literally no less then 5 miles apart....if that.

And to make matters even worse both rwy's at both airports are the same direction magnetically.

DM is 12/30 and so is TUS but I was told by my flight instructor they changed there numbers at TUS to 11L/29R cause they were so close to DM's that it often caused confusion.

Sure enough when I would line up for takeoff at TUS my compass said I was facing one-two-zero.

But have often heard stories about pilots either landing at DM or on final there for landing and being chewed out by ATC.

Oddly enough on my x-county flight for my PPL I flew from TUS-E63.

But... began lining up for final at GBN...a military base. I'm sure MikeD knows all about KGBN.

Guess I was on the wrong frequency and E63 is a smaller airport but GBN is larger and quite visible from the air and I think there runways at both airports are the same magnetically.

Had I not seen an F-16 off to my right in the far distance I prolly would have landed and had quite a surprise waiting for me.

On a side note I was very fortunate at that time to not get an F-16 military escort.
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Matthew
 
I see that they replaced the crew. There was obviously some confusion I wonder who will take the heat for this one and what kind of punishment they will get. Is it the captain who takes the heat or both? When this happens, do they have to go to some kind of retraining or is it written off as a BIG oops and they get a little letter in their personnel file.
 
I always thought they switched crews once the plane lands no matter what so the crew doesn't go over there work hours per month..

Would you get fired on the spot for an accident like that? I remember a story when a plane landed at the wrong airport, and everyone had to take buses to the correct destination (Buses suck, I would have walked.
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Our local TV station reported that the pax were ordered to put down the shades on the plane and not to look outside.
 
I seriously thought this post was about new flights into Ellsworth AFB. That would have been cool.
 
KRAP is the airport I currently fly out of. This is actually the third time a civilian aircraft has busted the Class D this week, but the first time one has landed. The two are very close together, the runways are 10 degrees different in alignment, and Ellsworth is much easier to see. During the week prior to Oshkosh all you hear is "Experimental XXXXX, that is Ellsworth AFB you are on final to, execute a 180 and report RAPID CITY in sight." The thing I find most amazing is that no one (ATC included) caught it. One of the old DC-9s with no real FMS or GPS I could understand but it seems a little odd happening in the electronic wizard A319. Also, I was flying the day it happened and there were B-1's all over the place, some on the line, some on alert aprons, and others in front of the dozens of massive hangars that house them. Ellsworth is also a training base for Air Traffic Controllers. They handle approach control both for the Air Force Base and the airport. I have heard them turn around Cessnas, Pipers, Beeches, and everything else, which makes it hard to imagine missing the Bus. The local news here reported that an emergency was declared, which could be a joke given the rest of the coverage, but there may be more to this story. I hope everything goes well for the crew.

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2004/06/21/news/local/top/news01.txt
 
Wow, landing at the wrong airport. Now that has to be embarrassing!
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Lol, don't those things have GPS?
 
It happens a lot more than you think.

Most older planes (and a lot of new ones) do NOT have GPS. GPS calls for extra training and maintenance and that costs money. Not many 1900s with GPS for example.

We had an IOE captain land at Caribou AFB instead of Presque Isle, Maine. He wasn't the first nor the last. It's very easy to do.
 
There was a student pilot who was on a solo cross country who landed at Andrews AFB instead of Maryland Airport. Now, I can understand getting confused about some things. But Andrews has two 9,000 foot runways. Maryland has one 3,000 foot runway.

I wonder if he wrote "intercept procedures" in the logbook?
 
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Eventually, the captain and first officer were replaced by a different crew for the short hop to the right airport.

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Can anyone explain this to me?
 
Seems the Captain and F/O were going to be a bit pre-occupied answering questions in a dank room under a bright light for quite some time and the AF saw no need to detain the pax any longer.
 
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