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No doubt Doug. I live under the approach path for KBUR, KCMA and KOXR. I can be laying in bed at night and know what airport a P.180 is going into.
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
They're so fast for a turboprop. I loves thems.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
I still love winglets, but they are a PITA when deicing with a couple of our deice trucks.It ain't cool, till it has winglets!
Lee D
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We have one flying out of ORL near everyday. Sweet looking aircraft.
Tech question--does having the prop in the back give better thrust than having it in the front?
Cordially
b.
p.s. Thank you J.C. now I am googling "italian toilets" to go see what they look like.
p.p.s......ok....how the heck do you poop in this????
Ahhh . . . I've seen those in South America as well. If you must use one I hope your bombing skills are not sub par and don't wear an expensive pair of shoes. (Speaking of the toilet not the plane.
)I often see an Avanti in Sun Valley. Looks a little weird on the ground but the non standard look has grown on me and from the noise it makes I'm guessing it is a direct drive. I'd be more than happy to take one for a joyride around the patch.
Timbo
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Doug, here's something similar, just -more- beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEHRVVmkAE
But it still sounds funny when it comes overhead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEHRVVmkAE
But it still sounds funny when it comes overhead.
jdlilfan
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Umm... Maybe really short final. The normal final speed is 140kts then slow to around 120-125kts on less than mile final. That's not really slow in my book.
jdlilfan
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The plane is hard to over gross because it will usually run out of fwd CG first. Typically can only carry 5 normal size people with 2 man crew.
Training is done in house right now. They used to do training at FSI-PBI.
Actually it is even slower and a bigger pain for W/B and fuel distribution. We have to do it in Canada all the time.
Don't forget the "switch" please!
I know a gentleman that would love to fly right seat. He'd even pay for any training. Money not a problem....
OldTownPilot
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They are heated under the paint. I'm not sure of the specifics, but with this setup the leading edges need to be repainted once a year. I think the paint ends up getting brittle and flakes off, you could tell if a plane was due for a painting.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
The article I read a year or so ago said the same thing. That's interesting.
Cessnaflyer
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Nice video here. We get them a couple times a month but I never noticed them being a different sound. I guess without the background noise going on they sound like a pissed off wasp.
Nice video here. We get them a couple times a month but I never noticed them being a different sound. I guess without the background noise going on they sound like a pissed off wasp.
jdlilfan
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The penalties for a dirty aircraft are:
150 FPM reduction in climb
4% increase in time to climb
4% increase in climb fuel burn
4% increase in distance to climb
5% reduction in cruise speed
The fuselage is said to provide 20% of the aircrafts total lift and the airframe/ lifting combination's are said to allow a 60% all laminar flow.
R
Roger, Roger
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IIRC, the unique noise is a combination of the 5-blade props and the exhaust gas stream passing through the prop blades.
jdlilfan
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Sometimes even sooner depending on how much the heat is used. Usually a thick plastic clear tape is applied to allow some longer life with the paint. Also the canard will have delamination as well over time due to both bonding issues of composites/ aluminum and using the electric heat on them.
The tail has no de-ice/anti-ice. The odd thing is that there are boots on the nacelle intakes yet the oil cooler intakes are bleed air? I don't get that one? It isn't well designed because any time ice has formed on or around them you have to fly with the ice vanes deployed until the ice has melted due to fear of a jagged on broken piece of ice being ingested.
WacoFan
Bigly
Avanti's are fast and efficient. I wonder what a new Avanti costs, plus hourly operating costs and performance would look like compared to a nice MU2 and its cheaper operating cost and performance.
I would guess that the MU2 would be the value leader - providing a percentage of the performance for significantly less coin, but that is just a guess.
I would guess that the MU2 would be the value leader - providing a percentage of the performance for significantly less coin, but that is just a guess.