Crockrocket94
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And i like the 50 NM straight line, but you do not have to land as per ATP cross country ")
New X-C "Time.." Considerations
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Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
Again, that's an important rule for military guys, who in several different types of aircraft (fighters and bombers) takeoff and land at the very same airport, but fly L O N G distances in between.
he/she could be correct but like many others I have yet to see this order from the FAA.
29.92inHg
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I haven't seen the order from the FAA either and it seems there should be some warning about a change to that magnitude, However I have heard, from an examiner, that each flight should be logged seperately and that includes point to point and local at any airport. So any time practice landings are done it is logged as its own flight
ex. between point A and B some landings at B and then back to A technically needs 3 distinct lines in the logbook.
A-B
B-B
B-A
Only the first and third entry are cross country. Oddly enough this was from an examiner in ATL that wanted to change the way the FSDO did things, about a year ago
ex. between point A and B some landings at B and then back to A technically needs 3 distinct lines in the logbook.
A-B
B-B
B-A
Only the first and third entry are cross country. Oddly enough this was from an examiner in ATL that wanted to change the way the FSDO did things, about a year ago
Cessna414JJB
Unknown Member
Sorry, help me:
I know Privates who went on 50.3NM straight line XC's, shot 10-12 landings and returned home, knowing full well that the XC time they should have logged was .7, when they in fact logged 1.8 each way?
Just fulfilling the 50 hour XC requirements by doing so, is nothing better than logging ME PIC time with two people taxiing up and down the taxiways without ever flying. Yes, it's a loophole, but apparently enough people have abused it to make the FED aware of it.
One or two touch and goes and a return flight... sure, nobody will moan about that, but spending 1 hour on each side in the pattern... I dunno.
Guess it must be somewhat reasonable in the end.
On the other hand, you can still fly 500NM to accomplish 50NM of straight distance and get to log it all. But even that can be taken out of context and pushed to the extreme.
29.92inHg
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I can fully understand making a regulation for it. I actually agree, that 10 landings shouldn't be cross country. I have always thought the section in the FAR's could use a little more info on logging time to standardize it all. ie sim time, cross country time, when instructors can log approaches, exactly what a 1 line entry should be, etc. At least an AC for it. The only real info from the FAA comes in the form of clarification letters, and examiner opinions. My only concern is a change that isn't consistant between FSDO's with no warning or grandfathering
Crockrocket94
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Hacker you are absolutly right, I was not doubting the usefulness of the ruling as per military guys.
I just have to laugh at the gray line that is drawn if someone wanted to fly the pencil in their logbook and log X-C time on local flights (provided the hobbs agreed). I mean, there is no proof that makes them guilty.
Don't do it, im just saying.
T56Maniac
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Ah yes.....how to keep everyone honest!! Unfortunately, the dis-honest ruin it for everyone else. However, it all comes back and "bites them in the butt" later down the road. I mean, come on, your already spending the money.....go out and enjoy it!