Musings of an Old CFI
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E_Dawg
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What made you post the link?
IMHO the article is not well grounded nor does it offer any real solution to a percieved problem. All it seems to do is point fingers.
Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does. Why does knowing who Gann is make a pilot better? Who cares if she likes a particular author...
But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave. A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
I do like some of her other articles though...
IMHO the article is not well grounded nor does it offer any real solution to a percieved problem. All it seems to do is point fingers.
Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does. Why does knowing who Gann is make a pilot better? Who cares if she likes a particular author...
But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave. A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
I do like some of her other articles though...
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Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does.
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I disagree. Most of my current flying is single pilot 135, and there is no doubt that I learn a lot from having to make all my own decisions, but I have often learned more from flying right seat with a highly experienced pilot in the left. It gives you the opportunity talk about situations that he has experienced in the past and correlate them to what is happening today. This means that you can now draw on numerous similar experiences (and their outcomes) as opposed to learning only what happens this time.
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But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave.
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I don't think she said whether the applicant passed or failed.
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A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
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I agree.
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I do like some of her other articles though...
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Yeah, me too. She isn't my favorite by a long shot, but she often has some good points.
Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does.
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I disagree. Most of my current flying is single pilot 135, and there is no doubt that I learn a lot from having to make all my own decisions, but I have often learned more from flying right seat with a highly experienced pilot in the left. It gives you the opportunity talk about situations that he has experienced in the past and correlate them to what is happening today. This means that you can now draw on numerous similar experiences (and their outcomes) as opposed to learning only what happens this time.
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But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave.
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I don't think she said whether the applicant passed or failed.
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A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
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I agree.
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I do like some of her other articles though...
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Yeah, me too. She isn't my favorite by a long shot, but she often has some good points.
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Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does. Why does knowing who Gann is make a pilot better? Who cares if she likes a particular author...
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I read it differently. I think she's just remembering back to the "old days", when everyone who was anyone of a pilot knew who Gann was. Sort of like a reminiscing, if you will....... Not any sort of accusation of anything or against anybody, IMO.
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But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave. A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
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I don't think the checkride stud failed, at least I didn't see that anywhere in the article. All I saw was "an inauspicious start" to the checkride. She just pointed out that the stud didn't handle the clear/concise/correct portion of the radio comm very well. According to the article, the stud never went through standard phraseology such "say again", or similiar common comm that would adhere to the C3 rule, prior to going to plain english. Plain english is fine as a last resort, but should be after standard stuff doesn't work, IMO. In the case as described, it seems the instant the stud didn't understand the first clearance, he didn't bother to try and resolve it with standard phraseology.
Sitting right seat, fondling the gear handle and reading some checklists does not necessarily help someone learn to make the decisions required to be a good pilot. Making those decisions as pic does. Why does knowing who Gann is make a pilot better? Who cares if she likes a particular author...
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I read it differently. I think she's just remembering back to the "old days", when everyone who was anyone of a pilot knew who Gann was. Sort of like a reminiscing, if you will....... Not any sort of accusation of anything or against anybody, IMO.
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But what I don't understand is how someone fails a checkride based on the situation she gave. A private pilot who reverts to plain English on the radio to clarify a clearance is someone who is using their resources - and will probably be much safer than someone who takes their best guess at what was said without question.
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I don't think the checkride stud failed, at least I didn't see that anywhere in the article. All I saw was "an inauspicious start" to the checkride. She just pointed out that the stud didn't handle the clear/concise/correct portion of the radio comm very well. According to the article, the stud never went through standard phraseology such "say again", or similiar common comm that would adhere to the C3 rule, prior to going to plain english. Plain english is fine as a last resort, but should be after standard stuff doesn't work, IMO. In the case as described, it seems the instant the stud didn't understand the first clearance, he didn't bother to try and resolve it with standard phraseology.