Multi engine time

jnape

jnape

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Does anyone know of any place where you can rent a Multi engine like a twin, Seminole , Aztec so on. without rediculous insurance requiremts. Im just looking to split some time with a buddy. Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "rediculous" but at N87's FBO/Flight School you have to have a $10,000 policy to cover up to their deductible. This cost about the same as an hour and a half in the Seminole per year. It didn't seem all that ridiculous to me. The same policy covers me any time I'm flying and aircraft that belongs to anyone else (part 91 of course), which I do often.

I think the policy is going to be there either way, in your name or theirs, if it's in their name, (the owners) the cost is going to be reflected in the price anyway.

Just my $0.02...
 
web265 said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "rediculous" but at N87's FBO/Flight School you have to have a $10,000 policy to cover up to their deductible. This cost about the same as an hour and a half in the Seminole per year. It didn't seem all that ridiculous to me. The same policy covers me any time I'm flying and aircraft that belongs to anyone else (part 91 of course), which I do often.

I think the policy is going to be there either way, in your name or theirs, if it's in their name, (the owners) the cost is going to be reflected in the price anyway.

Just my $0.02...
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He is probably talking about 20 hour checkouts and such.
 
About the only places that will offer this are facilities that are self insured (airplane is payed for). In those cases make sure your hull insurance will cover the cost of a twin.
 
If you are willing to come to the beautiful weather of miami to timebuild our school's rate is 235 wet for a seminole. You just have to have your multi license. Is the best price in miami I dont know how it compares to other states.
 
thanks for the Info and yes i was talking about the Hour req for insurance in order to rent the plane solo
 
The school I go to will rent to lower time pilots. They will get someone with insurance requirements (20/ 25 hours?) to fly with you until you have it, so you don't have to pay a CFI. The rates are about the lowest I've seen in Florida (at least for single engines- I don't fly multi). PM me if you want the website.
 
JA up in KARR has a few Seminoles with no insurance or checkout requirements beyond a one flight (or to competency) ride. Also no insurance required. (still probably a good idea though) Nice equipment at a pretty decent price
 
tlewis95 said:
JA up in KARR has a few Seminoles with no insurance or checkout requirements beyond a one flight (or to competency) ride. Also no insurance required. (still probably a good idea though) Nice equipment at a pretty decent price
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"No insurance required" is one of the great myths in aviation. It may not be required to rent the airplane, but if you bend metal you can bet someone will come after you. There are exceptions where the cost of the rental has insurance built in, but if this is the case for a MEL you can bet that there is a minimum hour requirement. If there is no minimum hour requirement for a MEL you had better have insurance or be ready to shell out $60K+ for a gear up landing.
 
Blackhawk said:
"No insurance required" is one of the great myths in aviation. It may not be required to rent the airplane, but if you bend metal you can bet someone will come after you. There are exceptions where the cost of the rental has insurance built in, but if this is the case for a MEL you can bet that there is a minimum hour requirement. If there is no minimum hour requirement for a MEL you had better have insurance or be ready to shell out $60K+ for a gear up landing.
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To further that, the insurance on rental aircraft is primarily there to protect the owner and/or FBO... NOT the renter. So even if renter's insurance is not "required" or specifically pointed out in the rental agreement, the renter should be aware that in most circumstances the fact is "if you break it you buy it".
 
Blackhawk said:
"No insurance required" is one of the great myths in aviation. It may not be required to rent the airplane, but if you bend metal you can bet someone will come after you. There are exceptions where the cost of the rental has insurance built in, but if this is the case for a MEL you can bet that there is a minimum hour requirement. If there is no minimum hour requirement for a MEL you had better have insurance or be ready to shell out $60K+ for a gear up landing.
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rframe said:
To further that, the insurance on rental aircraft is primarily there to protect the owner and/or FBO... NOT the renter. So even if renter's insurance is not "required" or specifically pointed out in the rental agreement, the renter should be aware that in most circumstances the fact is "if you break it you buy it".
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Understandable what you are saying. The rental agreement for the Seminole specifically says under requirements "Multi-Engine License and Currency." They do have hour requirements for some of their single engine (PA32,C206) rentals though. Then something about paying the first $10,000 of the deductible.

(I am AOPA insured in it and any non-owned single for about $500/yr. For the 70 some hours I put on the PA44 there, it was well worth the peace of mind.)
 
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