Multi BFR without MEI?

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Anyone heard of this? I heard from one pilot that he used to do BFRs in a multi without his MEI all the time, just said you need a ME comerical cert. He said it was new exemption or somthing in the FARs. Any info on this would be appreicated. thanks
 
The dude was smoking crack.

§ 61.195 Flight instructor limitations and qualifications
(b) Aircraft ratings. A flight instructor may not conduct flight training in any aircraft for which the flight instructor does not hold:

(1) A pilot certificate and flight instructor certificate with the applicable category and class rating; and

(2) If appropriate, a type rating.
 
Q: Can a CFI with single-engine-only privileges on his/her instructor certificate give a flight review in a multiengine airplane?
A: No. According to 14 CFR 61.56(c)(1), only an authorized instructor may conduct a flight review. Since a flight review requires one hour of flight instruction, it requires a multiengine instructor to conduct the flight review. To provide flight instruction, a flight instructor must have appropriate category, class, and type (if appropriate) privileges on his/her flight instructor certificate.

From AOPA's CFI QnA
 
pilot602 said:
And five hours in make and model ...
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I think thats only for instruction towards a new rating....multi bfr or time towards fbo reqs only requires a mei--no time in type.......i could be wrong but im pretty sure thats how it works.
 
triple7 said:
I think thats only for instruction towards a new rating....multi bfr or time towards fbo reqs only requires a mei--no time in type.......i could be wrong but im pretty sure thats how it works.
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Affirmative!
 
WAFlyBoy said:
Affirmative!
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To give ANY instruction in a twin (using the CFI-AME) you MUST have five hours in make and model of said twin. Read the regs.
 
pilot602 said:
To give ANY instruction in a twin (using the CFI-AME) you MUST have five hours in make and model of said twin. Read the regs.
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Rather than just a "read the regs" can we cite a particular reg so those of us who don't have a dog in the fight can read what the regs have to say about it?
 
pilot602 said:
To give ANY instruction in a twin (using the CFI-AME) you MUST have five hours in make and model of said twin. Read the regs.
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I decided to take this advice to heart. (The part where you cordially suggest that I "read the regs.")

Please turn your Bibles to 61.195(f), "Training received in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift":

"A flight instructor may not give flight training required for the issuance of a certificate or rating in a multiengine airplane unless that flight instructor has at least 5 hours of pilot-in-command time in the specific make and model of the multiengine airplane..."

Ahemm... we all know that "The Regs" are notorious for ambiguity. However, this reg is uncharacteristically specific. They actually go through the trouble of stating required for the issuance of a certificate or rating. This leads me to believe that the authors intended to exclude training activities such as BFRs and IPCs from the 5 hour in type requirement. Several of my co-workers (CFIs) agree.

Can anybody (Pilot602) provide reference to authoritative literature which supplements or contradicts this citing?
 
Chris_Ford said:
Rather than just a "read the regs" can we cite a particular reg so those of us who don't have a dog in the fight can read what the regs have to say about it?
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61.195(f)
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Training received in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift. A flight instructor may not give training required for the issuance of a certificate or rating in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift unless that flight instructor has at least 5 flight hours of pilot-in-command time in the specific make and model of multiengine airplane, helicopter, or powered-lift, as appropriate.
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WAFlyBoy said:
I decided to take this advice to heart. (The part where you cordially suggest that I "read the regs.")

Please turn your Bibles to 61.195(f), "Training received in a multiengine airplane, a helicopter, or a powered-lift":

"A flight instructor may not give flight training required for the issuance of a certificate or rating in a multiengine airplane unless that flight instructor has at least 5 hours of pilot-in-command time in the specific make and model of the multiengine airplane..."

Ahemm... we all know that "The Regs" are notorious for ambiguity. However, this reg is uncharacteristically specific. They actually go through the trouble of stating required for the issuance of a certificate or rating. This leads me to believe that the authors intended to exclude training activities such as BFRs and IPCs from the 5 hour in type requirement. Several of my co-workers (CFIs) agree.

Can anybody (Pilot602) provide reference to authoritative literature which supplements or contradicts this citing?
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I have to agree with WAFlyboy. He's right.

Turn in your bibles? When did you become a man of the cloth? LOL

Neil
 
WAFlyBoy said:
Can anybody (Pilot602) provide reference to authoritative literature which supplements or contradicts this citing?
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I don't know of any AC FAA Legal opinion or policy statement that suggests that the words don't mean exactly what they say.

You can compare the language with the Sport Pilot language which does require 5 hours make and model in order for a CFI to provide training:

61.415(e)
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You may not provide flight training in an aircraft unless you have at least 5 hours of flight time in a make and model of light-sport aircraft within the same set of aircraft as the aircraft in which you are providing training
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