Missing Logbook time

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ComplexHiAv8r

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I have discovered that I am missing some time in my logbook, as I have the time on the airplane but not in the logbook. I actually put hobbs time in my logbook to calculate the time and realize I missed a section of time. I am the only pilot of the plane, and it has not been in for service.

I for the life of me cannot figure out when and where I went for the lack of times. They most likely were XC, but not too concerned on claiming XC, but want to correctly have my TT. The hobbs appears to be working correctly, its not off by either an even 10 or 11 indicating a rolling meter.

How do I document it in the logbook.....
OOPS FORGOT I FLEW AND NOW LOGGING????

Thanks
 
Could be a good opportunity to switch to an online book, OR if it's only 10 hours or so, save yourself the trouble.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
How do I document it in the logbook.....
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Figure out when the flight was (shouldn't be too hard, match up the billing records...) Then add a line for the flight to your logbook. You don't need to log flights chronologically. (in fact, I don't - I use different sections of the logbook for different categories/classes. Makes life easier for me.

Also, use an electronic logbook (a free online one, or even a spreadsheet is better than nothing). Easier to have that do the math ;)

If it is one or two flights, I probably wouldn't even bother. Like that's going to make a difference 20,000 hours from now?
 
Unfortunately it is in a spreadsheet and there are not billing records other then fuel slips (I should be able to find dates that way). The xls sheet is how I found that my hours didn't match the aircraft when I was updating my logbook for insurance on a C55. It's just under 20 hours (18.7 for you aloft)
 
20 hours seems a lot to just forget? Something must be up with the hobbs or maybe someone stole the plane and put it back where they found it a few times...

In any event, you can just add a correction line and put the reasoning in the comments section... Or let it go.
 
The FAA will accept anything to prove time. A lost logbook can be replaced by a statement that you have the necessary time.

"However", (and there is always a however), to be legal for use in a logged format it has to have (sorry I don't have the FARs with me, so I'm going from memory) date, flight time, departure and arrival points, aircraft number, and condition of flight. If you have to guess at that (and you would) then you're tip-toeing into the area of falsification and that is one of the big no-no's in aviation.

As one of the earlier commenters recommended, if it is just a few hours, forget it. It it was something that would really make a difference, think long and hard about it.
 
TheRestoftheStory said:
The FAA will accept anything to prove time. A lost logbook can be replaced by a statement that you have the necessary time.

"However", (and there is always a however), to be legal for use in a logged format it has to have (sorry I don't have the FARs with me, so I'm going from memory) date, flight time, departure and arrival points, aircraft number, and condition of flight. If you have to guess at that (and you would) then you're tip-toeing into the area of falsification and that is one of the big no-no's in aviation.

As one of the earlier commenters recommended, if it is just a few hours, forget it. It it was something that would really make a difference, think long and hard about it.
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You're looking for 61.51.

Really doesn't cover random time unless it meets the description of paragraph a.

Just add a correction line. Leave out what you don't know and sign it. There is no legal requirement to log anything unless it is for training, currency etc. Beyond that its just a record of your flight time.

If its 20 hours missing, check your spreadsheet for any typos, that's a lot to miss in a cirrus (a trip across the country and back nearly?) Gotta guess that's an average burn of at least 10 gph, depending on where you park that could be $1000 in gas... so you should be able to find it.
 
20 hours is a fair bit of cash, especially if you would need that time to get a job at some point.

Log it, figure it out ad best you can, no worries. The FAA won't care, and it isn't enough that it is going to matter to an employer either.

That signature that says "true and correct" is ultimately what matters at the end of the day.

Just don't pencil whip another few hundred at the same time ;)
 
It's all electronic so easy to just add back in the spreadsheet. I'm going to label it as local flying for now. I'm going back wondering if the hobbs has a problem with its gearing (one tooth broken). I had that happen on a truck one time. I'll watch it the next 100 hours and see if it happens again and go from there.
drunkenbeagle said:
Just don't pencil whip another few hundred at the same time ;)
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If I was into pencil whipping I would have had the time YEARS ago...... I only broke 1000 last year and have had the license going on 12 years..
 
I lost my first logbook(have 5 now). I should said it was destoried due to basement flooding. That logbook contains all my rating except my current SIC. When I went for airline interview, I wrote down all my dates for my rating, and approximate time and told HR about it. It went ok.
 
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