MEI as intitial flight instructor rating

BrianNC

BrianNC

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When you get the MEI as your initial instructor rating, what are you limited to in instructing? Obviously I am assuming no instrument instruction, or at least no instrument instructing that a pilot could actually count toward a rating. Would your instructing basically be limited to the ME private or any type of VFR instuction where ME is concerned?
 
You can teach all the same that you can with a basic CFI except that you have to do it all in a multi-engine airplane unless you get a single engine add-on. The instrument rules are the same. No instrument instruction towards a rating unless you have an instrument add on.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.
 
Actually, even as only a CFI, you can teach Instrument. The only stipulation being you can not be the one that satisfies the "3 hours of flight training in preparation for the practical test..." and you can not sign them off for the practical test.

I'm trying to find it in the FARs but I'm pretty sure that is accurate. I did my Instrument Part 141 and my CFI didn't have his CFII until I got half way done with the Instrument syllabus.
 
E6BAV8R said:
Actually, even as only a CFI, you can teach Instrument. The only stipulation being you can not be the one that satisfies the "3 hours of flight training in preparation for the practical test..." and you can not sign them off for the practical test.

I'm trying to find it in the FARs but I'm pretty sure that is accurate. I did my Instrument Part 141 and my CFI didn't have his CFII until I got half way done with the Instrument syllabus.
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So a CFI could do ALL the instrument instruction except for the 3 hours of flight training in preparation..." and the signoff? Or since you mentioned half-way, the CFI did the 20 hours that actually could be done with any private pilot as your safety pilot and the 20 hours of actual instrument instruction was done by a CFII?
 
BrianNC said:
So a CFI could do ALL the instrument instruction except for the 3 hours of flight training in preparation..." and the signoff? Or since you mentioned half-way, the CFI did the 20 hours that actually could be done with any private pilot as your safety pilot and the 20 hours of actual instrument instruction was done by a CFII?
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Yes to both :)

I'd get a definant responses from of the CFI's here, but I'm pretty sure that is the way of it.
 
E6BAV8R said:
Yes to both :)

I'd get a definant responses from of the CFI's here, but I'm pretty sure that is the way of it.
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I don't have the reg. in front of me - but with respect to an instrument rating, some amount of the "training" is required from an "authorized instructor", and that has to be a CFI-I. So basically a CFI can give all the "instruction" that could also be flown with "just" a safety pilot.

From memory that's 15 hours - of which the 3 hours prep. is included.
 
CFIse said:
I don't have the reg. in front of me - but with respect to an instrument rating, some amount of the "training" is required from an "authorized instructor", and that has to be a CFI-I. So basically a CFI can give all the "instruction" that could also be flown with "just" a safety pilot.

From memory that's 15 hours - of which the 3 hours prep. is included.
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That is actually what I thought as well. However, one of my friends recently took a CFI Initial Checkride and that is the answer she was given. :confused:
 
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