ME Approach Turn Stalls
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Pilotforhire587
Lycra Man
Mitsubishi MU2-B35 Marquise. It makes it interesting having spoilers instead of ailerons, You better be coordinated.
mjg407
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Wow, how was that?
Nothing exciting. So easy to power out of.
mjg407
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Do you have any VMC issues in the lear? Any spool issues? Did you bring it to a full buffet or just to stall warning? Thanks.
First indication, stick shaker usually.
It's been awhile but I believe we had some power in there and the spool time isn't too long anyways.
I know of guys taking it to the break and they said the nose drops fast but it recovers in about 1500ft.
mjg407
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anic:No stick shakers or warning in the might O. Just buffet. Can actually fly out of a stall, but if you have an assymetric spool up, you are below VMC and this can happen.....
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5972721339#/topic.php?uid=5972721339&topic=7668
On July 22, a Navy P-3C conducted a simulated engine fire and shut down one of the port engines. Shortly thereafter, the flight crew noticed engine fluctuations in the second engine and shut it down without trying to re-start the first. The plane violently rolled and began a spiraling nose dive at 290 knots.
The pilots allowed the starboard engines to remain at maximum power in spite of NATOPS' requirement to go to "flight idle." A counterclockwise rotation was driven by the stall and the yaw produced by the two engines at maximum power.
The plane was pulling between 5 and 7 Gs and did five spin rotations form 5500 feet before the flight crew was able to restart the first engine and recover at bteween 50 and 100 feet above the deck.
The plane returned to Whidbey without further incident however the aircraft was essentially destroyed -- the fuel tank was ripped open, several panels were bent or buckled, and 45 consecutive rivets ripped out as the starboard wing skin peeled away
No stick shakers or warning in the might O. Just buffet. Can actually fly out of a stall, but if you have an assymetric spool up, you are below VMC and this can happen.....
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5972721339#/topic.php?uid=5972721339&topic=7668
On July 22, a Navy P-3C conducted a simulated engine fire and shut down one of the port engines. Shortly thereafter, the flight crew noticed engine fluctuations in the second engine and shut it down without trying to re-start the first. The plane violently rolled and began a spiraling nose dive at 290 knots.
The pilots allowed the starboard engines to remain at maximum power in spite of NATOPS' requirement to go to "flight idle." A counterclockwise rotation was driven by the stall and the yaw produced by the two engines at maximum power.
The plane was pulling between 5 and 7 Gs and did five spin rotations form 5500 feet before the flight crew was able to restart the first engine and recover at bteween 50 and 100 feet above the deck.
The plane returned to Whidbey without further incident however the aircraft was essentially destroyed -- the fuel tank was ripped open, several panels were bent or buckled, and 45 consecutive rivets ripped out as the starboard wing skin peeled away
Yeah I remember reading about that. Pretty crazy stuff.
AviatorGator
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Citation 500. Full break, in a turn.
Is that a straight wing?
JoelT
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Kingair C90B. Full stall in a turn was part of my p135 checkout. I was sitting in the back when another guy had his turn trying it and almost turned the airplane upside-down. As long as you kept it coordinated then it was a non-event but, this guy apparently didn't know what a rudder was for.
